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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying bist has been found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i need your help to get to the year 1985

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you are listening to fate to black with

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good evening payton black

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for the masses

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today's monday november 2nd

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307 days into the new year

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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this is fade the black i'm your host

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jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing

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all right now

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tonight's tonight we're going to do a

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of the queen mary ghost hunt

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went down all weekend long i was there

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friday night we'll be talking about that

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and uh tonight we have two very special

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from phoenix arizona researcher

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tony rathman will be here and i posted a

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interview of tony over on facebook and

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oh i i you know what i think i got it up

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in twitter today

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so uh you can go and and

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it's there and then right after that

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jay if uh you were there hanging out uh

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you know jay by now he was uh manning

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uh on the ship it was absolutely

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tomorrow night we are presenting our

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election night special event

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and jeff harmon is going to be here to

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talk about uh where we are at tomorrow

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night we have no idea

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um i am going to be uh here live just

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uh in 2016 and that show lasted until

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midnight we're not going to do that this

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uh we are going to have a new president

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uh elect uh tomorrow night announce i

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uh but uh it's uh it's a historic day

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night really looking forward to it race

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and jeff is an astrologer and

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uh about the future of the country and i

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what a better night not before the

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because i'm more interested in not so

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tomorrow night but wednesday and

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and the rest of the year so jeff harmon

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with us tomorrow night co-hosting the

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show with me wednesday

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night is another election night show

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we're gonna do election night

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the day after all right

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now and we we did it for a few reasons

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number one tomorrow is going to be one

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historic um evenings in in the history

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so that's going down we have to do that

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and making this show

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a safe space for me to go to

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to escape the realities of the world

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362 or three days of the year

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the boarding up of of things around the

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and storefronts and things being shut

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this stuff this stuff

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this stuff sends a message to people

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and so what is wednesday going to

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and if it is after all of the drama

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that's a show worth having the day after

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when it's all calm

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or if it's the opposite and if you are

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going to be spending your time here on

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this show and away from the news and

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away from all of that

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and there's stuff going on no that's

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that's not the right way to handle

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uh i still talk about the 2016 election

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all right uh okay jc what did i miss

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you okay buddy no actually the stuff

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and uh yeah there was so much that i

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maybe uh maybe one day i'll tell you

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oh but i'll explain all this

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i'll do it i'll do it thursday night on

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i'll tell everybody what i'm talking

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about all right and then thursday night

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is fader night with open lines all night

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uh fader night is unscripted

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it's uncensored it's unscreened

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it's unfiltered it is just you calling

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in with whatever you want to talk about

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on fader night when i try to lay out a

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cool subject to talk about tonight let's

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talk about time travel

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tonight let's talk about egypt tonight

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let's talk about whenever i lay a

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subject out on the table and i do a

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20-minute rant and i get everybody fired

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up i think

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not one phone call is about that

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it's it goes off in his own direction

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which is fine

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happen on thursday

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so we need to think about this

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tomorrow's november 3rd

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drama november 4th drama

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november 5th the drama continues and

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and that's the night where we get back

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to our

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normal programming which is whatever you

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want to talk about and that's going to

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go down

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on thursday all right a couple of things

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everybody to go and visit forbidden

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knowledge dot tv the links are over

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at jimmychurchradio.com you can head

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straight over there

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and and click and and go and check out

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the amazing television network

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that billy carson has put together um

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he's got a new book coming out and

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i will just let everybody know that i

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wrote the forward

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to the new book and it's an honor and a

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privilege to be able

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uh to do that uh for for somebody that

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is is out there making changes in the

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world

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and so that's coming out but i want

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everybody to go to forbidden knowledge

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tv and check out everything that he has

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got going on over there it's incredible

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the links are at jimmychurchradio.com

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also carolyn ford yes crystal skulls

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einstein the crystal skull

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dot com is the website and the links are

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over at jimmy churchrider.com throughout

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all right all right ah

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here we go let's get started follow me

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on twitter at j church radio

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the world is talking about it

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that's a pretty good gift right there

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absolutely i'll be hanging with jimmy

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and the fader is going to stay home with

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see that's what i'm saying chuck you and

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kara stay home

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hang out with the fam and who are you

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gonna trust with the news

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tomorrow who are you gonna trust

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right right here fade to black fade to

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that's where you wanna be tomorrow night

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our safe space uh

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you can email throughout the show jimmy

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox hashtag f2bq

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is fade to black questions

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all right let's get to the breaking news

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scent towers

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yeah you know what a centaur is

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greek mythology right oh by the way who

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has seen the blood of zeus

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have you guys peeped that out yet i

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don't know if it's amazon

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or uh netflix

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but it's a it's an anime cartoon called

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the blood of zeus

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don't worry about the cartoon part this

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is full of adult

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stuff i didn't know they did that kind

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of stuff in cartoons

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the blood of zeus absolutely amazing

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when it comes to the greek gods

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and the demigods and telling the story

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it's pretty cool go check it out anyway

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cent tower you know what a centaur is

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but no you don't

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ascend tower are rare celestial objects

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that can combine

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some of the different features of

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asteroids

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and comets that's right they're

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basically

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rocks like asteroids

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but they also throw out clouds of dust

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in the exhaust system

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that's right they vaporize like comets

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they're called sun towers they are

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extremely rare

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we have only found 18 active scent

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towers

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in the last century but now a new one

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has been added to the list and it's

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called centaur 2014

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oh g 392 original gangsta

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392. researchers did it with new data

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gather from the dark energy camera

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at the inter-american observatory and

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the walter bay

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telescope at the las campanas

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observatory both of them

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in chile and the large monolithic

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imager at lowell observatory's discovery

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channel telescope in

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arizona how crazy

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is that that's right

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now we have to remember that

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oh i'm gonna get to this in a second

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because now i was just talking about

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cent towers right asteroids you know

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meteorites that kind of stuff

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a meteorite that landed on a frozen lake

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back in 2018 we talked about it right

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here live on the show

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lighting up the skies over ontario

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canada you guys remember that right

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over michigan and the midwestern united

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states

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weather radar tracked the fallen

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fragments to strawberry lake

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in hamburg michigan an international

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team of researchers then

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examined a walnut-sized piece of the

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meteorite

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about this big while it was still fresh

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they said and their analysis revealed

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more than 2

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000 organic molecules

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that's right dating to when our solar

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system was

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just starting similar compounds may have

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ceded us the emergence of microbial life

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right here on planet earth how

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crazy 2 000

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can you say andromeda strain

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[Laughter]

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pandemic happened right after that i'm

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just saying

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yeah there it is blood of zeus yeah

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yeah you've got to watch it i'm watching

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everybody tweet right now

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is demi moore a demigod no she

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rick astley for president let's get to

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show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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caramel brown is 40. and you're saying

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to yourself jimmy who was caramel

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brown caramel brown

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was a cast member on my history channel

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show

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the unexplained and he is a really cool

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guy

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and uh very very smart and completely

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awake caramel brown today

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is 40. katie lang

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today is 59.

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yeah did you know that john 5 the

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john 5 right rob halford robbed zombie

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and uh played in that other crazy man

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anyway uh john 5

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was the guitar player for kd lang

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yeah he's like 18

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man can play poison bases bobby doll

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today is 57 and our dead guy's birthday

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today is keith emerson 1944 to 2016 died

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at the age of 71.

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keith was of course a founding member of

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emerson lake and palmer otherwise known

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as

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elp one of the early super groups

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that's right emerson wrote and arranged

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much of elps music on albums such as

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i wrote welcome back my friends to the

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show

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that never ends i wrote that

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on every desk i ever sat at

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in high school until i graduated

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that's right emerson died at his home

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here in los angeles

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on march 11 2016 of a self-inflicted

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gunshot to the head committed suicide

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on this day in history otd 1971

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the hughes flying boat the spruce goose

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at one time the largest aircraft ever

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built is piloted

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by designer howard hughes on its first

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and only flight

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right next to where the queen mary

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is docked today the dome where they had

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the spruce goose is still there next to

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the queen mary i don't know what they do

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in there

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they took the spruce goose out cut it

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apart

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put it on boats and i think they took it

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to oregon i think it's in a museum

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up there now it's no longer next to the

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spruce goose

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all of the advertising here in l.a was

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the queen mary and the spruce goose you

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go down there with the family you get to

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see both at the same time

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spruce goose isn't there anymore but

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isn't it ironic

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that did the ghost hunt this weekend and

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today

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that is my on this day in history

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offered short-term loans of up to 500

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with their clients signing their

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immortal soul as collateral

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and that's your fate or fact that's a

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fact and as a matter of fact contora

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uh what they ended up doing they did

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they didn't even want your last name you

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could go in and get a loan for 500 bucks

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tell them your name was bob and you

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signed the contract signing away your

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soul they will give you 500 bucks

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and they left it on you you pay it back

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if you don't

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we don't even we're not going to come

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after you don't need any information on

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it we're not going to come out

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because we own your soul and that's what

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they would tell and

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they put out a lot of money a lot of

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loans

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i just don't know how much of it they

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paid back or how many souls

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they own today tonight is our queen mary

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ghost hunt recap

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and we have guests tonight jay bloomke

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and tony rathman

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both gentlemen are on their way back

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from the queen mary

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in route to their homes and

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it's a race to see who is there first

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and that'll be our first guest my

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my money's on tony rathman he's driving

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to phoenix

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and i think he's going to beat jay

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bloomke home jay lives here in la

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he's stuck in la traffic i guarantee it

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tony rathman has got a free shot

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all the way to phoenix but uh tony will

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be with us at the top of the hour

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all right well let me hit this river

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in mcminnville oregon thank you for that

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that's right f2b blend 15 off of your

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click on the banners at

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jimmyturnsradio.com well we

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are here you didn't think it was going

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to happen but it did

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it's officially november 2nd the eve of

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the 2020 presidential election

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now one of the things that i had sort of

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predicted last month was that there

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might be

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a breaking huge ufo story that would

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overtake the politics for a moment

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before the election

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well we do have an asteroid flyby

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that is happening later tonight but

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other than

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that we got nothing

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we actually had tucker carlson

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that's right we actually had him we

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actually had

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tucker carlson doing his weekly ufo news

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on

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but even that has dropped off

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dramatically to almost crickets

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for some reason and i don't know why but

531
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the activity on social media has

532
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:41,360
also disappeared sightings big reveals

533
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:42,559
the ufo drama

534
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:47,760
it's all but gone the question is why

535
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:51,039
what happened could it be as simple as

536
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the entire nation

537
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is on edge maybe and that includes the

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ufo community

539
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sure that's part of it

540
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:03,520
but there is another thing going on

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and that there is a certain group of uh

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influencers

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inside of the ufo community right now

544
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:12,559
who are responsible for breaking stories

545
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:13,679
and drama

546
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:16,799
who are right now

547
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:20,720
fighting over politics that's right

548
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well not politics exactly but conspiracy

549
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:25,279
theories

550
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and really crazy claims

551
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,880
now i'm not going to get into details

552
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:32,720
but all of this stuff

553
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no scratch that all

554
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,039
of this stuff is kept

555
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inside and on the down low i just happen

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to be part of a

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00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:45,520
couple of circles right but i'll say

558
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this

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i've stayed out of it i have

560
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:53,600
the absolute fabricated drama flying

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around

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is mind-blowing and i just sit back and

563
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i read the back and forth between the

564
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individuals in these two groups it's

565
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actually

566
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it's two groups in and

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in about three different circles it's

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not one

569
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:16,159
that's right they are red and blue

570
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:19,919
i'm literally laughing

571
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:23,279
both sides have insiders from

572
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:26,159
china and russia that's right and

573
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,000
they're talking about the plans that are

574
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:30,559
in place to take over the united states

575
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,520
if one or the other is elected tomorrow

576
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,880
and they know exactly what's going to

577
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:36,480
happen and this is going to happen

578
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:39,520
i'm talking crazy stuff

579
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,960
deals between putin and and trump

580
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:45,600
deals between china and biden and the

581
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,399
second that

582
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,720
they get elected trump is moving in and

583
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:50,799
everything is going to get announced and

584
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:53,840
and and putin and it's like the cra

585
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,000
and i'm not look i'm leaving the details

586
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:59,200
out but it's insanity

587
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:02,399
and they believe it at least i think

588
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,279
they do

589
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:05,760
the name calling that is going on the

590
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:08,480
mud slinging it's truly insane

591
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,070
i could i could blow the lid off the

592
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:18,000
entire ufo can be

593
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:19,520
all the way around all i have to do is

594
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:27,669
your mind would be blown

595
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:31,360
oh man people you respect

596
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:35,039
i guarantee it man name calling

597
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:39,760
name call i mean just just like kids

598
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,230
but the one guy that we had was tucker

599
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:47,919
carlson

600
00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:51,440
and now these these circles that i'm in

601
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:52,840
right it's crazy

602
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:56,080
now they've totally thrown tucker under

603
00:30:05,590 --> 00:29:57,279
the bus

604
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,600
since he ran away from hunter biden and

605
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:07,360
that conspiracy

606
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,960
they're saying now that tucker has been

607
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:10,559
compromised

608
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:14,720
and that he can no longer be trusted

609
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:17,360
and this is why tucker has stopped the

610
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,240
ufo

611
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,279
news nobody trusts tucker anymore

612
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:23,679
right and is this the reason i don't

613
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:24,640
know

614
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,080
but i can say probably

615
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:31,039
at least for now no matter who gets

616
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,720
elected tomorrow

617
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:35,120
will have way too many breaking

618
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,880
headlines over the next few months or

619
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:38,240
years

620
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,000
that are going to take away too much of

621
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:42,320
tucker's time i'm telling you right now

622
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:45,279
and the rest of mainstream media will a

623
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,600
breaking ufo story be strong enough to

624
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,279
overtake the conspiracies

625
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:51,840
that are about to surface over the next

626
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,200
year

627
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:55,840
well that depends on what kind of ufo

628
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:56,799
news

629
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:59,760
right i don't know but but what will it

630
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:00,320
take

631
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:03,840
you have to understand today

632
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:06,080
today we have a war on the border of

633
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,200
armenia

634
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,600
that has barely been mentioned by the

635
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:11,360
mainstream

636
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:14,720
today a terror attack in vienna and the

637
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:15,519
terrorists

638
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:18,159
are armed and on the loose right now as

639
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:19,440
i speak to you

640
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:22,880
hardly a mention in the media

641
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:26,000
right beheadings in france and teachers

642
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:27,039
and things and

643
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:30,080
crazy just stuff going on

644
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:31,600
around the world have you seen what's

645
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:33,200
going on in warsaw

646
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,720
in poland and abortion have you seen the

647
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:38,080
women taken to the streets

648
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,399
50 000 people and women 50 000 women

649
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:44,640
in downtown warsaw we're going to stop

650
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,000
cooking working

651
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:48,640
feeding you doing anything unless you

652
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:49,440
change the law

653
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:52,880
right now barely a mention in the media

654
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:59,190
think about that this is fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church

656
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:04,080
tonight is our queen mary

657
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,679
ghost hunt recap special event

658
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:10,559
top of the hour tony rathman is here

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00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,840
live from phoenix

660
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,440
we'll swing that around i guess at the

661
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:15,760
bottom of the hour depending on la

662
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traffic

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00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,120
jade bloomkey is going to be here he was

664
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the host and the producer of the event

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00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,720
and uh we're going to talk about

666
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everything that went down over the last

667
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,720
four days i had a couple of things

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00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,000
that happened i'm going to tell you

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00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,840
about everything when i come back

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after this short break this is fade to

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black i'm your host jimmy church

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what's up chris what up this is jimmy

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church

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tonight is our queen

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mary ghost hunting recap special

756
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:50,320
at the top of the hour tony rathman is

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going to be with us he is coming to us

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00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:54,480
live from phoenix

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and then at the bottom of the hour

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uh jay bloomke is going to be here he

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was

762
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:02,880
uh the producer and of course the host

763
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of the event did a great job by the way

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and he'll be with us at the bottom of

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the hour and run to the end of the show

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00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:14,870
the uh and this is this is where i

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00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:16,720
normally introduce a guest and

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and the guest is me that's pretty cool

769
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:20,079
so i get to

770
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,119
just tell you how it went down and

771
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:26,240
uh i i don't know exactly uh

772
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,200
where to start but the event was four

773
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:30,960
days long started on thursday went

774
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:31,599
through

775
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:35,280
uh yesterday uh today they were tearing

776
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:36,560
down the ship

777
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:39,680
uh tearing down the gear

778
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,680
that was installed on the ship i i did

779
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:43,920
post a few videos

780
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,640
over on my facebook page and if you want

781
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:48,320
to go and check those out if you haven't

782
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:49,839
already

783
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:52,400
it'll give you a basic layout of some of

784
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:54,000
the things that i'm about to say right

785
00:38:09,750 --> 00:37:54,960
now

786
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,760
the good stuff first and this isn't

787
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:10,880
normal radio

788
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:14,960
uh so i'm gonna say this uh at the onset

789
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,720
two things went down in two different

790
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:20,880
rooms at two different times

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00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:24,160
that absolutely 100 percent were real

792
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,200
and blew my mind

793
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,079
and freaked me out so i will get to some

794
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:29,839
i'm letting you know now

795
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:33,440
uh what that was okay so

796
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:36,640
incredible absolutely incredible

797
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:40,640
now let me lay this out for you

798
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,680
um i arrived i i

799
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,520
most of this was posted up in social

800
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:47,839
media but for those of you that didn't

801
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:48,800
catch it just

802
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:52,560
let me lay it out for you like this um

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00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:56,320
uh i arrived down there

804
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:58,640
at about 4 p.m i was an hour late i got

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00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,640
stuck in traffic it was supposed to be

806
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,079
an hour drive turned out to be a

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two-hour drive

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00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:07,520
um and i was by myself rita had to stay

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back

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00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:10,880
and and work and do some other stuff and

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00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,520
and she

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00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:13,280
couldn't go with me she was so

813
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:15,119
disappointed and

814
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,320
knowing what ended up going down

815
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:20,560
she really wishes that she was there but

816
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,680
okay uh

817
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:23,920
she wasn't there i was by myself so i

818
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:25,839
arrive at 4 p.m the first thing that

819
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:26,960
happens

820
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:30,400
is um outside of the ship um

821
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:33,440
i had to go through covet testing

822
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,720
and uh they

823
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,800
it was pretty strange to go through to

824
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:40,400
see cova testing go down

825
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:44,400
now um and

826
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:47,839
two two two oh i'm looking at tony he is

827
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:55,349
racing to phoenix and so they

828
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,480
uh they did it via blood not with a swab

829
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,240
i was i did i didn't know how they were

830
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,920
gonna do but i was assuming

831
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,599
it was gonna be some kind of swab and

832
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:05,200
some kind of vincent test i don't know

833
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:05,680
about the

834
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:07,760
the different tests that are out there

835
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:09,040
but they did it with blood

836
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:12,319
pricked my finger put it on this

837
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:15,520
little plastic instrument thing testing

838
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,400
kit

839
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,319
you know put my blood on there boom 15

840
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:20,000
minutes later i was clear to go on the

841
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:20,960
ship

842
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,560
and there we go so but for 15 minutes

843
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,960
while i was waiting for my test results

844
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:28,240
to come in

845
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:32,240
i'm i'm there and what what you have to

846
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:34,000
understand

847
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:37,520
is that this was an exclusive event

848
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:41,599
for the dark zone that we had

849
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,880
not only the entire ship to ourselves

850
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:47,280
but the property and everything there it

851
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,800
was empty the

852
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,480
if you've ever been down to the queen

853
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:52,079
mary you know that there's a parking lot

854
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,839
there that holds a few thousand cars

855
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:56,000
it's it's it's huge uh there's

856
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:57,520
restaurants down there everything

857
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:01,119
everything's closed completely

858
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,720
empty not a single soul not caught

859
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,880
nothing nothing the only cars that were

860
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,480
there were

861
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,480
those that were part of the ghost

862
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:12,160
hunting and i'm talking about

863
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:15,680
10 cars in this 10 car in this

864
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:18,960
giant parking lot and so it was the

865
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,160
silence

866
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,920
right i got to take it all in i'm

867
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:24,160
standing next to the ship

868
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:27,839
and not anybody that the the two

869
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:31,760
nurses that did the uh kova testing were

870
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:32,560
there

871
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:40,319
other than that it was

872
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,000
empty the silence

873
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:47,119
i to stand next to a ship

874
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:48,960
this bit i don't know how many decks

875
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:51,200
right i i just i don't know

876
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,040
10 15 decks on this ship

877
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,880
you know in the black section you can

878
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:58,319
count the portals you know one two three

879
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,359
four five six

880
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,560
there's probably another four decks that

881
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:03,839
are in the white section

882
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,520
of the ship you know that you you know

883
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:07,200
it's black and white

884
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:11,440
so it's probably 10 10 decks maybe more

885
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,119
um and it's huge and i walked from the

886
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:16,800
front of the ship i popped a selfie in

887
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:18,319
the front underneath the queen mary

888
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:18,960
there's a

889
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:21,440
soviet submarine that is there too as

890
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:22,079
well

891
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:24,319
i took pictures of that um i didn't post

892
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,280
them yet

893
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:28,160
but so i'm down i go there i walk all

894
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,280
the way

895
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:31,599
down to the back of the ship and i just

896
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:33,520
looked i shot a video of that that's up

897
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:33,839
on

898
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:36,880
social media and uh

899
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:40,000
just to capture the um

900
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:43,440
emptiness of everything and

901
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,640
it was i don't know how to say it she is

902
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:48,480
a beautiful ship and it's

903
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,280
big and i'm looking at it just thinking

904
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,280
it's totally empty

905
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:56,319
there's nobody there right we have this

906
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:57,680
ship to ourselves

907
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:00,720
so boom i clear cove in testing

908
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,400
um and then i've got my my escort

909
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:06,720
and and we had head on to the ship and

910
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:09,599
we go up and we walk in

911
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:13,359
uh and i go into the main nerve center

912
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:16,400
where all of the

913
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,960
uh hardware is there all the video the

914
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,880
switching systems the audio

915
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:23,520
uh for the cameras and all the remote

916
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,400
stuff

917
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,640
is in this central lounge there's a

918
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,560
great video of it

919
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:31,200
um this isn't like what you're thinking

920
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:32,160
the

921
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:40,240
um optical cables you can see when you

922
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:41,440
go in

923
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:44,720
um and and kathleen uh

924
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:48,160
burns uh the executive producer and her

925
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,280
team

926
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:51,920
and i'm observing the first thing you do

927
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:52,400
you

928
00:44:02,790 --> 00:43:59,839
judge of what's going on

929
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,800
and they had catering laid out like four

930
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:03,839
tables

931
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:06,560
i was like okay all right all right here

932
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,280
we go

933
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,400
this is this is pro anyway um

934
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:12,319
uh and so that video was there and you

935
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:13,920
can see

936
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,119
uh the level of technology and how

937
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:20,400
serious this ghost hunt uh

938
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:23,440
was going to be in this production so

939
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:26,000
i go through all of that and then i walk

940
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:27,200
through

941
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,950
perfect

942
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,880
just uh that's tony letting me know he

943
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:40,560
is he's ready to go

944
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:43,920
um and uh

945
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:47,920
we go through now uh i go to the main

946
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,240
set and there are pictures of that

947
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:53,280
in the ballroom and the ballroom i can't

948
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:54,160
explain

949
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:57,520
uh the ship is so big

950
00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:00,319
you don't really realize it until you

951
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,839
you know you do things like you walk

952
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:03,359
into the ballroom

953
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,599
and you see the size of it you think

954
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:07,440
that you're in some

955
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:10,960
huge hotel in new york or miami or

956
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:13,359
or san francisco or paris or whatever

957
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,480
the the wood

958
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,960
and it's just it it's incredible and

959
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:18,560
it's huge

960
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,599
and um yeah right

961
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,400
okay so we go through all of that now

962
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:26,560
i'm gonna cut to the chase

963
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:29,760
our first investigation was in the

964
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:30,480
churchill

965
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,720
so we go up with the team and we are

966
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:41,280
uh in the room uh tony's with me he's

967
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,319
gonna be with me at the top of the hour

968
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,720
and we're in this suite it's a nice

969
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,160
suite by the way

970
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,960
uh it's like two rooms there's a bedroom

971
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:52,960
and a living room area

972
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:56,560
and a dining room little uh kitchen area

973
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:00,079
nice it's pretty nice and uh

974
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:03,599
bigger than what i thought and so

975
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:06,400
in this room we have uh where i am

976
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:07,599
sitting

977
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:09,359
the portals are here here's the back

978
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:10,880
wall and there's

979
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,160
uh a couple of cameramen maybe three

980
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:16,720
a sound guy with a boom mic he's here

981
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:18,560
they're all on this side of the room

982
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:20,240
all of the investigators are in front of

983
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,599
them i'm first

984
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,000
uh sitting across from me is tony

985
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,400
rathman he's facing me his wife sharia's

986
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:29,760
is next to him and then uh

987
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:33,280
uh everybody else is is on this side of

988
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:33,839
the room

989
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:37,280
okay we turn off the lights and

990
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:40,880
um as we are doing this evp session

991
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:44,000
and i'm running my tascam recorder it's

992
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,400
there

993
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,560
got my night vision uh we were using

994
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:48,480
that in the room too as well

995
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:51,520
and we we go through

996
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,040
we're in this room for about 45 minutes

997
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,079
and the back and forth with

998
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:00,000
the evp and some of the things that were

999
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,000
going on was pretty interesting in the

1000
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:04,160
and the k2 meters are going off and

1001
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:05,440
there were some things that were

1002
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:06,560
happening

1003
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:09,680
um and it was it was really fun but

1004
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:12,880
then there was this moment

1005
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,319
um where because we

1006
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:18,480
we ask a question you've seen ghost

1007
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,680
adventures in these

1008
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,240
ghost hunting shows you ask a question

1009
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:24,720
and then you wait for a response

1010
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,480
and then you ask another question and

1011
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:28,640
the but the but the room itself

1012
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:31,920
is silent you can hear

1013
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,559
everything and it was at one of these

1014
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,240
moments where we were going through

1015
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:39,119
these questions and we ask a question

1016
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,839
and then from my right and this is in

1017
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,880
the dark

1018
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:44,880
okay there were candles that were lit

1019
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:47,520
but it was in the dark

1020
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:51,040
from my right i hear

1021
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:54,720
a female voice loud

1022
00:48:03,510 --> 00:47:58,480
clear go

1023
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:03,520
hmm and it was loud

1024
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,359
and i shoot a look at tony

1025
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:09,520
and tony's looking at me i don't know

1026
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:12,160
who said it first did you hear that

1027
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:21,589
i freaked out i freaked out

1028
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:25,599
because i heard it i heard it

1029
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,440
and i turned to my cameraman greg

1030
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:31,200
who's standing here and i said greg

1031
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:32,559
talked to me and he's like

1032
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:35,599
what's up i said well that wasn't you

1033
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,390
and nathan the other cameraman over here

1034
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:45,839
who's like six foot six

1035
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,440
it wasn't his voice um

1036
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,520
the sound you know what i mean these are

1037
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:53,040
these are men

1038
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,400
over here now tony who's sitting in

1039
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,920
front of me tony's going to be with us

1040
00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:59,440
at the top of the hour and we can get

1041
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:02,000
his opinion on everything by the way i

1042
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:03,680
haven't recorded

1043
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,200
um i haven't had the time to go and

1044
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,720
analyze the file i'm going to send the

1045
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:08,640
file to tony he just got back to phoenix

1046
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:10,160
he's an evp expert

1047
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:13,760
he'll look at the files and and and

1048
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,960
and i'll play that section my version

1049
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,440
and tony's after he does his analysis

1050
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,200
because he'll do magic with it

1051
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:23,760
tony who's facing me he's against the

1052
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:25,040
wall

1053
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,480
he thought it came from behind him

1054
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:30,160
in that direction which would have been

1055
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:31,680
behind nathan i

1056
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:34,880
thought it came like right from

1057
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:38,400
here okay tony thought it came from over

1058
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:38,880
here

1059
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:41,920
was

1060
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,359
pretty interesting again this is a voice

1061
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:47,599
that doesn't have a mouth attached to it

1062
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,839
it was just like in the ether

1063
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:53,040
but it was loud and it was

1064
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:56,640
real in the silence

1065
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,480
all the women that were with us all the

1066
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,319
ladies they were all on that side of the

1067
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,160
room and again everybody was

1068
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:05,040
quiet as we were doing these evp

1069
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:06,559
sessions so i heard it

1070
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:10,240
i heard my first uh

1071
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:13,440
spirit voice i i that's

1072
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:17,920
it it it really happened

1073
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:22,000
all right so there's that

1074
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,520
that right there was worth the price of

1075
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:26,640
admission i i felt like a professional

1076
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:30,400
ghost hunter i heard my first

1077
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:33,680
voice it was it was a trip okay

1078
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,880
so then our next investigation

1079
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:39,200
um there was other things that went on

1080
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:40,640
in that room by the way we'll talk to

1081
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:42,160
tony about that

1082
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:45,200
our next investigation was all the way

1083
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,319
up on the very top of the ship the

1084
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:50,720
the suite that we were on was below

1085
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:51,760
decks i don't know

1086
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:54,880
we went from the main deck we went we

1087
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:56,559
went down like four flights

1088
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:59,200
uh we were four decks below the next

1089
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:00,559
investigation

1090
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:03,599
was all the way on the top deck of the

1091
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:04,720
ship

1092
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:08,160
in a lounge called sir winston's named

1093
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:08,720
after

1094
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:12,160
uh winston churchill and it took a while

1095
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:13,520
to get up there

1096
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,520
uh the ship is huge

1097
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:19,920
but we walk and i i posted a picture

1098
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:20,880
earlier of

1099
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,920
me on the top underneath the smokestack

1100
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,400
this is right outside of the entrance to

1101
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,079
sir winston's

1102
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:30,319
but as you can see it's the you can't go

1103
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:31,680
any higher it's

1104
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,760
the top deck of the ship except for that

1105
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:35,359
little railing that is around the

1106
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:36,319
smokestacks

1107
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:39,359
but but where i'm standing it's right

1108
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:40,800
there i'm standing on the teak

1109
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:44,960
wood uh of the top deck so

1110
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:47,920
uh we're going to sir winston's and uh

1111
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,400
which is a small lounge

1112
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:53,520
and if you saw it on the television

1113
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:56,480
broadcast then you could see the setup

1114
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:57,839
of the lounge but

1115
00:52:01,109 --> 00:52:00,480
typical lounge in that when you walked

1116
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:01,119
in

1117
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:04,400
uh there's a bar on the end of the room

1118
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:06,880
just a full service bar in front of that

1119
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,480
is a grand piano

1120
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:11,040
and then in front of that is a lounge

1121
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:12,720
with tables in the middle

1122
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,839
it's not very big at tops

1123
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,680
if everybody was you know you're talking

1124
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:18,960
about 50 people

1125
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,680
in this lounge uh there are these little

1126
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:24,480
two-seat booths that go along the walls

1127
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:26,880
and tables in the middle you know maybe

1128
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:27,760
50 people

1129
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,839
so it's not not very big we had on that

1130
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:32,319
investigation

1131
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:35,839
uh probably three or four

1132
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:39,599
camera crew plus sound and then

1133
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,839
the rest of us uh that were there um

1134
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:46,079
uh to do the investigation and part of

1135
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:47,920
that investigation was bernie k

1136
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,839
if you saw bernie kay the singer of

1137
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,200
sound barrier and

1138
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,680
that was really cool more on that later

1139
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:55,200
and uh

1140
00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:59,520
uh myself and patrick doyle okay

1141
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:01,760
v patrick doyle so he's he's there too

1142
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,319
as well okay so

1143
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,640
we were doing sessions with the estes

1144
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:07,680
method

1145
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,480
and i think we did three sessions uh

1146
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,480
with that i didn't do it

1147
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:15,680
um i was asking the questions

1148
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,040
uh but uh that took

1149
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:21,760
that took about an hour uh to get

1150
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:22,480
through that

1151
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:25,760
very interesting the asking sessions uh

1152
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,119
are pretty mind-blowing to go through

1153
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:31,359
um we had three or four people asking

1154
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:33,359
questions that was pretty cool but

1155
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,079
probably i think the best way if i do a

1156
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,480
sd session in the future

1157
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:41,200
one person is asking questions you want

1158
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:41,599
to

1159
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:44,880
lead the conversation in and not lead

1160
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:45,200
the

1161
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,160
thinking of uh different directions

1162
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:56,400
and i i think it gets a little out of

1163
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:57,520
focus but

1164
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,480
nonetheless very very interesting okay

1165
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:02,800
now let's get to the point

1166
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:05,440
we're we're done and we know that we're

1167
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:06,559
winding

1168
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:11,200
down it's about 11 o'clock at night

1169
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:14,400
and um

1170
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:17,119
and at that moment we had finished the

1171
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:18,079
sc sessions

1172
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:21,119
and we were talking about uh the last

1173
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:21,760
session

1174
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:24,400
on camera and discussing everything that

1175
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:25,920
was happening

1176
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,200
and then uh where i was sitting

1177
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,200
oh okay so here's the layout of the room

1178
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,119
here's the bar here's the grand piano

1179
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,119
we're sitting at this front table right

1180
00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:37,520
here the whole back half of the lounge

1181
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:37,839
was

1182
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:40,640
empty and this back corner of the lounge

1183
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:41,440
over here

1184
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:43,280
in this corner is a doorway and you

1185
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,520
could se a hallway a doorway to a

1186
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:47,359
hallway

1187
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:48,880
i never went back there i didn't even

1188
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,359
know the door was there

1189
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,280
everything on the ship is off limits

1190
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:55,200
unless you have an escort

1191
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,400
um so there were

1192
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:00,799
certain there were bathrooms that we

1193
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,359
could use below deck but everything else

1194
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:05,119
you know it's like off limits unless you

1195
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:07,520
have an escort so i wasn't concerned

1196
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:09,040
about what was in the back

1197
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:10,960
of this thing we were shooting with the

1198
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,280
cameras in the front of the lounge right

1199
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,599
and and the lights are down so in this

1200
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:16,960
dark corner

1201
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,040
you could see this doorway there was a

1202
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,880
light on the inside of it in this

1203
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,839
hallway

1204
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:24,160
but it was back there nobody paid

1205
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:25,680
attention to it i didn't

1206
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:28,319
and i'm sitting there in my chair and

1207
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:29,599
and we're talking

1208
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,720
and again a moment of silence and in

1209
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:34,319
this moment of silence

1210
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,990
door closed just loud

1211
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:46,950
and i looked and i that's when i noticed

1212
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:53,990
what was that so i get up

1213
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,880
and if you saw it on the video you saw

1214
00:56:01,829 --> 00:55:58,319
what went down

1215
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:01,839
camera follows me and we walk

1216
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:04,640
to the back and now i see it's bathrooms

1217
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:05,839
it's a

1218
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:08,960
gentleman's in the ladies bathroom

1219
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:11,440
wow okay they know that these were back

1220
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:12,160
here

1221
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:15,599
i open up the gentleman's bathroom door

1222
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:16,000
i look

1223
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:17,920
in camera's behind me there's nobody in

1224
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:19,760
there it's empty

1225
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:22,319
and then i release the door and it

1226
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:23,040
closes

1227
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:27,599
but it wasn't the same thump it was like

1228
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,640
you know it wasn't the same sound i

1229
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:32,559
thought okay well it wasn't that

1230
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,359
so i go to the ladies bathroom camera

1231
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:37,440
follows me in there and i open it up

1232
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:40,319
there's a second door it's got a door

1233
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:42,799
wedge underneath it on the bottom

1234
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:45,440
so that door was wedged and open it

1235
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,839
wasn't that i saw a countertop

1236
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,839
but it's also empty there's nobody in

1237
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:51,920
there but then i released

1238
00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:00,230
it was that door

1239
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:04,309
trippy and what i did notice

1240
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,240
is that the woman's door

1241
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:10,640
which i could see for my chair that door

1242
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,880
was closed the entire time because

1243
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,960
when i did look back in that corner a

1244
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:17,040
couple of times that's what i saw the

1245
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:20,079
the light and the door wasn't open to

1246
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:21,359
the ladies room it would have been

1247
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:22,559
really light

1248
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:26,000
right so

1249
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,920
um as i did it like the second time

1250
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:31,680
i hear patrick doyle that was it that

1251
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:35,040
was the sound yes it was

1252
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,240
what did that and i so i you know and i

1253
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:40,480
i did that on camera i did it a couple

1254
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:41,680
of times

1255
00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:44,319
i released the door about this far you

1256
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:46,640
know pushed it back and let it freely

1257
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:47,119
close

1258
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,359
boom um so i don't know

1259
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,480
i don't know but i heard it

1260
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:57,200
and that's what it was it was 100 that

1261
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:58,400
door

1262
00:58:02,069 --> 00:58:01,280
and it freaked me out because i'm back

1263
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,079
there

1264
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:04,799
looking around i'm trying to debunk i

1265
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,280
just want to just get a simple answer oh

1266
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:09,680
the door was propped open it fell shut

1267
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,720
or is this or

1268
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:12,720
there was somebody in the bathroom that

1269
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:15,119
walked in there and we didn't see

1270
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:16,559
you know what i you know let's just

1271
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:18,160
debunk this thing and that wasn't the

1272
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:19,359
case

1273
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:23,280
that door closed by itself 100

1274
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:27,839
there's no there's no other explanation

1275
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,359
and the one thing that uh

1276
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:33,440
uh stuck with me about this

1277
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:35,119
investigation

1278
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:38,880
is you have to understand we

1279
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:42,160
were alone on this ship and i know that

1280
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,599
you see this i

1281
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,680
or the only people in this building

1282
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:47,440
during the lockdown

1283
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:49,599
were the only ones here well you know

1284
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:50,880
what that's tv

1285
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:53,359
all right and you don't know i'm telling

1286
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:54,319
you

1287
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:01,359
alone on that ship there was

1288
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:04,400
nobody else there and we were

1289
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:07,599
in this lounge for probably two hours in

1290
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:08,640
one spot

1291
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,079
filming nothing no issues

1292
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,160
and then at the end of the night as

1293
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:15,839
we're all sitting there everybody's

1294
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:16,880
accounted for

1295
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:20,240
right this sound comes from the back

1296
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:29,589
mind blowing and it just gets your mind

1297
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:32,000
you know and and and me going back there

1298
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:34,720
and and doing this is i did this for me

1299
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:37,040
i didn't do it for the cameras i didn't

1300
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,799
do it for the audience

1301
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:41,280
i need to figure out what made that

1302
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:41,920
sound

1303
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,040
and i needed to put my mind at ease and

1304
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:47,280
i didn't

1305
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,839
i couldn't debunk it bizarre

1306
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:53,040
there's a lot of other stuff that

1307
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:54,960
happened to as well but those are

1308
01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:58,319
my two experiences that were real

1309
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:01,440
disembodied voice loud

1310
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:04,880
clear in the moment of silence

1311
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:06,720
with all of us sitting there and that

1312
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:10,000
hmm female's voice high pitch

1313
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:13,359
that was nuts and then that closing door

1314
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:16,400
from the back of the room

1315
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:19,520
it's crazy it was a lot of fun and i'd

1316
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:21,200
do it again too as well

1317
01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:22,799
there were things i wanted to do on the

1318
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,559
ship we didn't have the opportunity we

1319
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:26,240
didn't have the manpower

1320
01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:28,079
but i wanted to go down to the engine

1321
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,400
room i wanted to go up to the bridge

1322
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,640
uh i did look in the pool room there

1323
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:34,480
were cameras going in there but that was

1324
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:36,079
all locked off and

1325
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:38,319
you can only look into it from a window

1326
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:39,280
so i couldn't

1327
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:41,680
i couldn't pull that off but uh i would

1328
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:43,599
love to do it again i would

1329
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:46,160
that opportunity that we had there

1330
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:47,520
because of the pandemic

1331
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:50,559
and the ship being on total lockdown

1332
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:52,640
if that that opportunity will never come

1333
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:54,240
again so

1334
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:57,280
but i would do it in a second if i could

1335
01:01:02,309 --> 01:00:58,559
let's take our break

1336
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:02,319
when i come back tony rathman

1337
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:05,359
he's cool too as well i am your host

1338
01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:07,760
jimmy church this is paid to black it's

1339
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:08,720
our queen

1340
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:11,839
mary recap special event gonna take a

1341
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:13,200
quick break and when i come back

1342
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:15,280
we'll be joined by tony rathman great

1343
01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:16,480
investigator

1344
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:39,990
[Music]

1345
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,160
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1346
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:44,480
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01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:49,440
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1348
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:52,000
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01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:53,040
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1350
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all right welcome back fade to black i

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tonight is our queen mary

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we're recapping four days on the queen

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01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:00,079
mary i just went through the basics of

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01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:02,559
uh what we did on friday night and i

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01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,319
want to bring out tony rathman

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01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:06,240
and uh i think we have tony here tony

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01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:07,760
are you there

1474
01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:10,559
oh no tony is not there okay let me try

1475
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:12,839
this again

1476
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:15,839
uh it's no big deal

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01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:17,760
let's see if tony picks up the second

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01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:18,880
time

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01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:22,319
come on tony oh

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01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:28,410
no okay

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01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:30,000
[Music]

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01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:33,680
let's try this

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01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:37,200
let's see if this works i mean this is

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why

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01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:39,359
i'm just gonna let everybody know see

1486
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:42,400
normally we do sound checks yeah

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01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:48,870
and uh no

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01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:52,000
i have the feeling tony can hear me i'm

1489
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:56,000
looking at the chat but uh

1490
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:59,359
he okay all right i'm gonna stop doing

1491
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:01,119
this in real time

1492
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:03,680
i'm talking about chatting with you

1493
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:06,160
let's just uh bring this on so tony

1494
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:10,000
he's a specialist in in in evps

1495
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:13,039
uh he's got all the right gear

1496
01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:15,200
uh there was a really great interview

1497
01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:16,239
that was done

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01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:19,600
with uh tony and system

1499
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:22,640
okay uh that that is bizarre i think i'm

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punching in

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01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:27,279
the wrong phone number let's

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01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:30,560
see let's go

1503
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:39,269
and uh and he showed all of his gear

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01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:42,319
right and that's what was uh really

1505
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:43,920
impressive where i just went

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01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:48,239
wow wow okay here we go this guy

1507
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:52,080
uh knows what he's doing and

1508
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:55,920
tony are you there tony rasman oh

1509
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:02,630
live on the air tony you need to pick

1510
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:06,480
up your phone

1511
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:09,759
let's try this again wow okay

1512
01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:11,920
this is uh this is why we always do

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01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:14,400
sound checks

1514
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,159
no this is why we always

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01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:21,199
do sound checks

1516
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:24,640
i can can only do

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01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,870
okay in a second i am getting close to

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01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:38,080
uh

1519
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,309
this is why we always do sound checks

1520
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:48,000
and he was on the road

1521
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:51,440
and oh i see what's happening now okay

1522
01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:54,560
so now let's see if we can do it like

1523
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:57,199
this and i will try one more time if not

1524
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:58,159
i'll go to a break

1525
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:01,199
we will get tony here

1526
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:11,189
and and ready to go we we thought we

1527
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:16,470
no all right i'm going to take a quick

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break this is fade to black i'll be

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you are listening to fade to black with

1573
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hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

1574
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:03,360
jimmy church

1575
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:06,480
this is revolution the revolution will

1576
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not be televised

1577
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do

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01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:00,239
all right welcome back fade to black i

1581
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:03,040
am your host jimmy church

1582
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:04,490
to get tony

1583
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:07,120
[Music]

1584
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:11,360
i yeah we're texting

1585
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:13,280
uh the numbers aren't connecting we

1586
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:14,400
don't know what

1587
01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:17,920
is going on and i

1588
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:20,239
am oh wait a minute wait a minute wait a

1589
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:21,920
minute oh

1590
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:29,840
oh man

1591
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:37,280
[Laughter]

1592
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:41,120
oh that was funny that was what i just

1593
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:44,239
let everybody know that uh

1594
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,520
uh tony was calling

1595
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:49,840
oh there it is and i hit the wrong i

1596
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:51,600
hung up on him

1597
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,840
oh man here we go tony tony tony that

1598
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:57,679
was an adventure

1599
01:15:02,149 --> 01:14:59,440
that was absolutely insane can you hear

1600
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:02,159
me now oh we got you that was crazy

1601
01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:05,760
and you know what you know look um

1602
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,880
uh uh jay is on standby

1603
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:11,679
we'll bring jay in uh in a little bit

1604
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,719
but uh

1605
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:15,040
uh right now it's you and i we've got a

1606
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:16,560
few minutes before the bottom of the

1607
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:18,239
hour then i gotta take a break so i'm

1608
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:19,120
gonna hold you

1609
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:22,400
over to the next segment and i did let

1610
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:22,960
every

1611
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:24,880
listen tony i had a great time hanging

1612
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:26,239
out with you this weekend you and your

1613
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:28,080
wife total professionals

1614
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:31,440
and thank you we did too we did too and

1615
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:34,400
just uh let me let me get straight to

1616
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:35,600
the chase

1617
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:38,000
uh you were there for four days i was

1618
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:38,640
there

1619
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:42,400
uh for one uh with you um

1620
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:44,960
uh we're we'll discuss the other three

1621
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:45,920
days

1622
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:48,960
uh when we come back after the break but

1623
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,400
for right now uh when you were i

1624
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:55,199
uh when you and i were in the churchill

1625
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:56,560
suite

1626
01:16:01,830 --> 01:15:58,880
and uh we were going through the

1627
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:01,840
investigation there was a moment there

1628
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:05,760
where you and i heard a voice

1629
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,870
you probably weren't listening to the

1630
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,480
show right now you were doing other

1631
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:15,760
things but

1632
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:18,960
um but that's what i heard

1633
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:21,120
and you and i haven't discussed it much

1634
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:22,719
we discussed it at the moment

1635
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:25,600
that it happened uh but we went off and

1636
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,880
did other things now

1637
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:28,640
take me back to that moment you're

1638
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:32,080
you're an evp expert this is what you do

1639
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:35,360
but this was this was loud

1640
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:38,400
this was in the room yeah you could

1641
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:41,600
verbally hear this with your own ears so

1642
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:44,239
whatever source was producing this was

1643
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:45,920
loud enough for it to be

1644
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:49,120
audibly heard with the human ear you

1645
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:50,800
heard it i heard it i think there were a

1646
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:51,760
couple other people

1647
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:54,880
after one of us said it um also said

1648
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:56,560
yeah i heard that

1649
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:59,440
and you know i i have not had an

1650
01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:01,520
opportunity because i think

1651
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:03,120
you were the only one that had a

1652
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:05,120
recorder going at that time

1653
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,679
right and which was a shame that there

1654
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:09,280
weren't others that we could have gotten

1655
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:10,880
a hold of that piece but i'm

1656
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:14,320
so curious to find out if you've had a

1657
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:16,719
chance to review that and if anything

1658
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:19,360
yeah i haven't had a chance yet either

1659
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:19,920
and

1660
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:23,520
it's only because i have a busy life

1661
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:26,640
and that's not it's not an excuse

1662
01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:30,000
in of itself but um i will

1663
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:32,560
get to it tomorrow and now that you're

1664
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:33,600
back in phoenix

1665
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:37,520
and you're uh in a in your studio

1666
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:39,120
that you'll have the files tomorrow

1667
01:17:44,550 --> 01:17:41,120
you'll be able to analyze it

1668
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:44,560
and i'm very excited to hear what uh

1669
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,640
what you come up with i i have enough

1670
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:48,640
gear here of course

1671
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:51,760
uh to do the analysis but you're you're

1672
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,440
the professional here

1673
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:56,000
um we'd love to get a hold of them i'll

1674
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:57,280
look for them and yeah

1675
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,440
absolutely we'll we will dive right into

1676
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:01,199
that we will pull that thing apart from

1677
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:02,800
top to bottom to see what's there

1678
01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:05,920
how often does that happen you know evps

1679
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:06,480
are

1680
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:10,159
to do that with

1681
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:14,320
um the evox 2.0 for example but

1682
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,640
this was this was somebody talking to us

1683
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:20,880
out in the open how often does that

1684
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:22,719
happen for you

1685
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:25,920
not that often i mean we've had it we've

1686
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:27,280
had it happen before

1687
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:30,719
but it's rare it's rare well let me

1688
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:33,600
okay maybe it's not rare but it is a

1689
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:36,320
minority percentage of the time

1690
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:39,440
90 of evps are only heard

1691
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:42,640
on digital playback of a recorder

1692
01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:46,080
when you can hear them with your own ear

1693
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:49,040
that's uh i'd say that's maybe 10 or

1694
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,400
less of the time

1695
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:52,400
now the more you do evps the more

1696
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:54,400
haunted locations you're in

1697
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:56,560
the more you have an opportunity for

1698
01:19:01,750 --> 01:18:58,880
that to happen so my percentage on 10

1699
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,760
might actually be a little high but it's

1700
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:03,360
not something that happens

1701
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:06,719
that happens um very often and

1702
01:19:11,590 --> 01:19:09,600
the real backup of it is what was

1703
01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:11,600
captured on the recorder because we

1704
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,239
could hear it with our own ear

1705
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:16,320
you had an excellent quality recorder

1706
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:17,760
that's going to capture it

1707
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:20,640
so now what we need to determine is was

1708
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:22,800
that a sound made from

1709
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,000
actual human throat vocals or

1710
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:28,640
was this a disembodied voice that was

1711
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:30,480
speaking to us and that's what i'm dying

1712
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:31,600
to find out for sure

1713
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:33,920
yeah and this was the other point that

1714
01:19:36,870 --> 01:19:35,840
i'm trying to drive home first off this

1715
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:36,880
is my first

1716
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,159
real investigation and for that

1717
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:42,239
cool yeah and for that to happen to me

1718
01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:44,480
i'm i'm still a little bit freaked out

1719
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,080
but i'm also pragmatic

1720
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:50,880
right and the first thing i did along

1721
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:51,920
with you

1722
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:54,080
as was we looked you thought it came

1723
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:55,520
from over your shoulder

1724
01:19:59,910 --> 01:19:59,040
basically to your left uh it was from my

1725
01:20:07,189 --> 01:19:59,920
right

1726
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:07,199
were big strapping men the voice didn't

1727
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:10,719
come from them right no no it didn't

1728
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:12,320
that's a great that's a great point

1729
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:13,840
because they were all standing in that

1730
01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:14,719
corner

1731
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:17,120
that's the direction this sound

1732
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:18,400
originated from

1733
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:22,000
and yes this was to me clearly a female

1734
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:22,880
voice

1735
01:20:26,229 --> 01:20:24,560
and yeah none of those none of those

1736
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,239
guys and those cameramen

1737
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:28,080
made that noise no doubt about that and

1738
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:30,320
and there's something other uh

1739
01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,280
else for me i think is unusual and i

1740
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:35,199
want your opinion on this

1741
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:38,800
i thought it came directly from my

1742
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:41,360
right directly right where greg was

1743
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:42,000
standing

1744
01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:43,760
you know the cameraman to my right

1745
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:46,239
correct you yes you thought the voice

1746
01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:49,440
came from your left uh

1747
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:51,520
over your shoulder on the other side of

1748
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:52,480
the room

1749
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:55,760
two different directions same voice but

1750
01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:58,000
right but there isn't a source for the

1751
01:21:02,629 --> 01:20:59,520
voice right there's not a mouth

1752
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:02,639
there so well and and that's

1753
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:05,920
that's one of the reasons why i can't

1754
01:21:09,310 --> 01:21:07,520
wait to hear what shows up on your

1755
01:21:12,830 --> 01:21:09,320
recorder because

1756
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:12,840
disembodied voices unlike a human

1757
01:21:18,629 --> 01:21:16,239
vocal voice your ears are set up to

1758
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:18,639
pinpoint what direction that's coming

1759
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:19,040
from

1760
01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:22,080
right disembodied voices are much

1761
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:24,960
more difficult to pinpoint direction

1762
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:25,600
because

1763
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,880
it's all encompassing this voice if it

1764
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:30,560
was disembodied and we have to

1765
01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:33,280
we have to verify that but if it was we

1766
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:35,280
were all supposed to hear that

1767
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:38,159
and the fact that we did and we were we

1768
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:38,800
were all

1769
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:42,239
unsure exactly which direction it was

1770
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:45,679
coming from gives me even more

1771
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:47,679
evidence that this was probably a

1772
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:49,440
disembodied voice because

1773
01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:52,239
those are practically impossible to

1774
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:53,280
directionalize

1775
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:56,639
by what you're hearing right and

1776
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:00,159
the uh in in the ufo world

1777
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,360
um which i'm very familiar with uh in

1778
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:05,040
the ufo world

1779
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:08,320
a daytime sighting

1780
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:11,679
is the holy grail right you know

1781
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:14,000
at night yeah okay all right all right

1782
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:15,120
it's cool

1783
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:18,080
daytime sighting that's a whole nother

1784
01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:20,480
standard of excellence right

1785
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:23,040
is it the same thing with a disembodied

1786
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:24,080
voice versus

1787
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:27,280
evp because of its rarity and and the

1788
01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:28,560
way that it goes down

1789
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:31,120
is that more like the holy grail of

1790
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:32,880
ghost hunting

1791
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:36,239
it is from an eevee evp perspective

1792
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:38,000
absolutely when you can hear it with

1793
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:39,280
your own voice

1794
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:41,600
and you know those steps continue to get

1795
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:43,920
a good to get an evp is one thing

1796
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:47,280
to get a class a evp is the sort of holy

1797
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:49,040
grail of evps

1798
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:52,320
to get an evp that's a class a that you

1799
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:53,360
heard with your

1800
01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:55,760
own ears prior to going back to

1801
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:56,560
listening

1802
01:23:01,189 --> 01:22:59,120
to the recording yes that is absolutely

1803
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:01,199
the holy grail of evp

1804
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:04,000
now the whole holy grail of paranormal

1805
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:04,800
in itself

1806
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:07,199
is a full-bodied apparition but when

1807
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:08,560
we're talking

1808
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:11,760
strictly to evps yes to be able to have

1809
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,120
heard it with your

1810
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:15,760
own ear to be able to scrutinize what

1811
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:17,360
you think you heard

1812
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:19,600
and discuss it with other people that

1813
01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:21,120
heard it as well

1814
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:23,120
and then like i said go back and be able

1815
01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:24,719
to look at the recording

1816
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:26,960
and say oh my god there it is that's

1817
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,239
exactly what we heard

1818
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:30,480
and it matches what we thought we heard

1819
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:33,040
that is the holy grail of evps

1820
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:33,760
absolutely

1821
01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:36,560
now you were you were on the ship for

1822
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:38,080
four days

1823
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:41,360
how hot how haunted is that ship

1824
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:44,400
very i'm convinced you know we

1825
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:47,840
we um we spent four days there four days

1826
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:50,000
investigating in fact we were even their

1827
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:52,800
day a couple days early helping set up

1828
01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:55,199
the iso cameras you know getting gear

1829
01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:56,880
ready to figure out what we're going to

1830
01:24:01,430 --> 01:23:59,600
be using on each and every investigation

1831
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:01,440
but i could have spent a year on that

1832
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:02,080
boat with

1833
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:05,199
with a the size of that boat and b

1834
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,639
the amount of activity that occurs there

1835
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:10,480
i mean you're talking about the empire

1836
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:12,320
state building laying on its side

1837
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,880
that's how long that boat is so it's a

1838
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,719
big place there's lots of places for

1839
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:17,920
them to hide

1840
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:19,760
but each and every room that

1841
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:22,159
investigations were done in things were

1842
01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:22,880
happening

1843
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:25,600
so the activity on that boat is is

1844
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:26,480
absolutely

1845
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,000
amazing i was not prepared i have been

1846
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,159
to the queen mary many many times i've

1847
01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:34,480
lived in la for 35 years

1848
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,320
i've been to the queen mary now i've

1849
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:38,000
only been on it once

1850
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:41,760
but standing next to it countless times

1851
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:44,639
and i was not prepared for the size of

1852
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:45,199
the ship

1853
01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:47,840
i i don't think anybody is when you walk

1854
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:49,120
into it

1855
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,360
and then you start to look around and

1856
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:54,000
you realize this is just one deck

1857
01:25:00,550 --> 01:24:57,120
and and how how big i mean

1858
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,560
uh and majestic right were you prepared

1859
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:01,920
for that absolutely beautiful

1860
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:04,639
yes well we we yeah we we've

1861
01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:06,400
investigated there before

1862
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:08,880
um a couple of times and uh but but the

1863
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:09,840
boat like you said

1864
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:13,600
is huge it's um majestically crafted

1865
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:14,400
there is

1866
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:17,600
beautiful artwork um laid out throughout

1867
01:25:21,830 --> 01:25:18,560
the ship

1868
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:21,840
the the areas like the queen's lounge

1869
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:25,199
just just beautifully done and then yeah

1870
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,080
when you when you

1871
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:28,960
take the the the absolute beauty of the

1872
01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:31,199
on top of the size of the ship on top of

1873
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:32,239
the fact that

1874
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:34,800
we were there to paranormal investigate

1875
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:37,120
and the amount of things that occurred

1876
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:40,320
in the four days of the investigations

1877
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:42,639
and the best part about it was was that

1878
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:45,199
we had all sorts of different

1879
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,760
styles of investigation different styles

1880
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:49,600
of types of investigators

1881
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:52,000
yet everyone who investigated there was

1882
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,960
coming away

1883
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:55,199
with something so that shows the amount

1884
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:57,440
of activity that occurs on this ship

1885
01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:00,639
now one of the things that uh

1886
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:04,000
really impressed me is

1887
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:08,000
because we were alone on such a a

1888
01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:12,080
a a major ship this is a ship ship

1889
01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:16,159
um right was the silence if you were

1890
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:20,000
uh alone you you know what i mean

1891
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:22,080
you suddenly realize how quiet you

1892
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:23,600
didn't hear people talking

1893
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:25,360
you don't hear footsteps you don't hear

1894
01:26:30,229 --> 01:26:26,800
things you don't hear

1895
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:30,239
plates or silverware or shoes or kids or

1896
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:31,440
baby

1897
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:35,280
the ship is utterly silent

1898
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:38,560
right crazy well yeah we

1899
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:41,760
we were setting up um the isil camera so

1900
01:26:45,189 --> 01:26:44,000
uh my wife and i along with one of the

1901
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:45,199
pas that you know

1902
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:48,159
led us around to certain areas were like

1903
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:48,960
three people

1904
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:51,600
in the only people in a room like on the

1905
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:52,560
other end of the ship

1906
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:54,080
setting this stuff up and you are

1907
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:56,159
absolutely correct about that silence

1908
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,159
you could hear a pin drop

1909
01:27:01,189 --> 01:27:00,320
but what an experience for trying to

1910
01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:01,199
catch

1911
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:03,679
noises or things that were not supposed

1912
01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:04,800
to be happening

1913
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:06,080
because you'd never be able to

1914
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:07,760
experience that if the ship was running

1915
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:09,280
but the fact that like you said there

1916
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:10,800
was nobody there

1917
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:12,880
you could have literally tossed a pin

1918
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,560
and and heard it fall

1919
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:16,639
because it was that silence yeah yeah

1920
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:19,040
that's i i need to stress that with

1921
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:20,960
everybody so when

1922
01:27:25,510 --> 01:27:23,920
when we heard this voice that voice was

1923
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:25,520
coming out of the the

1924
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:28,880
silence of this ship it was just right

1925
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:31,520
man it freaked me out i'm still i'm

1926
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,080
still

1927
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:34,400
uneasy about it after the investigation

1928
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:35,840
i need to take a break right here tony

1929
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:37,120
so you're going to stay right there but

1930
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:39,920
after the investigation uh tony and i

1931
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:40,239
are

1932
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:42,320
in the parking lot saying our goodbyes

1933
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:43,520
uh after this

1934
01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:51,189
it was insane and i called i called my

1935
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,080
wife

1936
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,000
and she goes so what's going on i said i

1937
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:56,639
heard a voice

1938
01:28:00,070 --> 01:27:58,239
i don't even know how to put it into

1939
01:28:01,910 --> 01:28:00,080
words i mean

1940
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,920
yeah and if you weren't there it's

1941
01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:03,440
really hard to explain it it's something

1942
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:04,000
you got to

1943
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:05,840
experience for yourself and people who

1944
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:07,520
weren't there you know it's just

1945
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:09,199
it's that personal interaction you got

1946
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:11,120
to be there to see it well see

1947
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:13,360
here's the key here's the key this is

1948
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the bottom line

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from the moment that you are born the

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moment that you are born

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you are uh developing

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01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:28,000
and evolving as a human your ears

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01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:31,600
to listen to the female voice your mom's

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01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:32,560
voice

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01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:35,679
a boy or a girl

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01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:38,960
you are your ears right and what do you

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01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:39,679
do right

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01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:43,360
you look for the mouth you zone in

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01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:46,000
and that's what you do this is this is

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01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:47,840
your dna

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01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:51,600
in action this is you know this is us

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01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:54,159
and when that female voice pops off like

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01:28:58,229 --> 01:28:55,360
that

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01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:58,239
and there's no mouth connected to it

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01:29:03,270 --> 01:28:59,199
there's no

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01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,280
connected to it

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01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:05,520
that messes with you man it messed with

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01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:06,960
me tony

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01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:09,760
oh it does no no doubt about it and and

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01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:10,000
that

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01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,040
was a very very distinct very

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01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:15,280
very clearly audible i mean this didn't

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01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:16,080
come from

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01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:17,440
and it's not like there was anybody in

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01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:19,280
the next room it's not like i mean this

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01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:19,679
was

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01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:31,520
questioning maybe something we

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01:29:35,590 --> 01:29:33,679
said or right no i'm not sure or

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01:29:35,910 --> 01:29:35,600
wondering what we were doing it was it

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was

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we're going to take a break and i want

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to remind everybody

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that last year websites shared over

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100 trillion pieces of personal data

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this is data taken on users of various

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websites

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like the one you are on right now

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i don't like being spied on by

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advertisers which is why i

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use virtual shield tons of tech

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platforms have stopped their kova 19

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browse the internet anonymously and

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securely like i do

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please visit virtual virtualshield.com

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forward slash fade to black

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or click on the link right now in the

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video description

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in this video that you are watching

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right now and you will get

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this is fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight

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is our recap of the queen mary ghost

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01:30:42,149 --> 01:30:39,520
hunt that

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that we did down in long beach with the

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dark zone over the last four days

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almost jimmy church more tony rathman

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when we come back after this short break

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:10,960
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01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:16,310
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

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01:33:20,550 --> 01:33:17,360
jimmy church

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01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:20,560
this is revolution the revolution will

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not be televised the revolution

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01:34:08,229 --> 01:33:48,830
[Music]

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01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:10,229
welcome back fade to black i am your

2064
01:34:15,110 --> 01:34:12,000
host jimmy church

2065
01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:15,120
we are doing our queen mary recap a

2066
01:34:18,629 --> 01:34:16,080
special event

2067
01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:18,639
uh ghost hunting on the queen mary for

2068
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:20,400
the last four days i was there for

2069
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:21,360
friday night

2070
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:24,960
and i had two incredible uh experiences

2071
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:28,080
uh tony was with me for one of those and

2072
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:31,360
and thankfully it you know to tony uh

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01:34:35,990 --> 01:34:33,679
of everybody that was there it was you

2074
01:34:39,430 --> 01:34:36,000
that heard it with me

2075
01:34:44,709 --> 01:34:39,440
right right and this is your specialty

2076
01:34:46,790 --> 01:34:44,719
um evps and you brought all of the gear

2077
01:34:49,030 --> 01:34:46,800
uh with you to go and investigate you

2078
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:49,040
were there for three additional days

2079
01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:52,400
what else did you find on the queen mary

2080
01:34:57,590 --> 01:34:55,440
uh we we ran into so

2081
01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:57,600
many different things you know but one

2082
01:35:00,550 --> 01:34:59,440
of the really cool things about the dark

2083
01:35:02,709 --> 01:35:00,560
zone is

2084
01:35:04,870 --> 01:35:02,719
you know they they don't just present

2085
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:04,880
evidence or whatever was captured

2086
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:08,080
as you know absolute definitive

2087
01:35:11,510 --> 01:35:10,320
paranormal i mean they they brought in

2088
01:35:13,430 --> 01:35:11,520
guests to discuss

2089
01:35:15,189 --> 01:35:13,440
what was shown they brought in guests to

2090
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:15,199
discuss you know what they

2091
01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:17,440
thought about it and these are you know

2092
01:35:19,510 --> 01:35:19,199
these are strong investigators people

2093
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:19,520
with

2094
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:23,040
we caught

2095
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:26,239
um lots of sounds on the iso cameras we

2096
01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:29,280
caught a strange image on the flear

2097
01:35:34,709 --> 01:35:32,639
that um if you watch it really closely

2098
01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:34,719
the curtain gets pushed and it moves to

2099
01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:36,239
the right which is understandable

2100
01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:38,080
because it's a heat signature off the

2101
01:35:41,109 --> 01:35:39,760
floor of someone that was standing on

2102
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:41,119
the stage

2103
01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:43,600
but then it jumps over to the left and

2104
01:35:47,350 --> 01:35:44,880
shoots across

2105
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:47,360
the second curtain which was never moved

2106
01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:49,600
so that was really cool

2107
01:35:55,990 --> 01:35:54,840
um we had gotten um a full spectrum

2108
01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:56,000
photograph

2109
01:35:59,350 --> 01:35:58,320
are you still there yes i'm listening oh

2110
01:36:02,070 --> 01:35:59,360
okay uh no i

2111
01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:02,080
no i i i my phone clicked all of our

2112
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:03,280
gear just literally came

2113
01:36:06,070 --> 01:36:04,800
out of the car into the house and i

2114
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:06,080
think that's why my computer wasn't

2115
01:36:08,550 --> 01:36:06,639
working

2116
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:08,560
but anyway we took this full spectrum

2117
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:11,040
photo in the queen salon

2118
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:13,840
and you can see where all the people are

2119
01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:14,960
standing

2120
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:18,800
and you can see which lights are

2121
01:36:23,189 --> 01:36:20,880
shining down on them and you can see the

2122
01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:23,199
direction that their shadows

2123
01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:25,199
are portraying from the lights that are

2124
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:27,199
up on on stage

2125
01:36:31,910 --> 01:36:29,920
and then we have this shadow standing

2126
01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:31,920
against this pole

2127
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:34,159
and it's just it's it's unique because

2128
01:36:38,470 --> 01:36:35,280
there is no

2129
01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:38,480
human body that is visible within the

2130
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:40,960
the photo unless there there was

2131
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:42,080
somebody

2132
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:45,600
um hiding behind the pole or something

2133
01:36:51,830 --> 01:36:49,040
um but the but the shadow is like

2134
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:51,840
very short and shaped like no one that

2135
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:52,719
we remember

2136
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:55,199
being in the room so that was really

2137
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,159
cool to show

2138
01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,199
and talk about and then you know the

2139
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:01,199
other cool thing about being on the ship

2140
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:04,560
for that long was that there were a ton

2141
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:07,840
of personal experiences that occurred

2142
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:10,080
from everybody from jay seeing stuff to

2143
01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:11,920
kathleen being touched

2144
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:14,320
and i had my own experience i was

2145
01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:16,159
setting up some camera work

2146
01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:18,639
and i had forgotten the cord was way

2147
01:37:23,750 --> 01:37:20,719
down the hall so i went down to

2148
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:23,760
get the cord back and i felt

2149
01:37:28,229 --> 01:37:27,119
um a touch on my shoulder and in only my

2150
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:28,239
right ear

2151
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:31,360
did i hear a whisper that said

2152
01:37:35,510 --> 01:37:34,320
it was i loved it it was so cool you

2153
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:35,520
know this is the thing

2154
01:37:39,189 --> 01:37:38,960
i'm fully i'm fully in now i'm i'm fully

2155
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:39,199
in

2156
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:45,600
um i i i

2157
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:48,880
that ship that ship has got some stuff

2158
01:37:53,830 --> 01:37:52,080
going on there that uh i don't know if

2159
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:53,840
another investigation can go

2160
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:55,440
down like this again where you have the

2161
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:56,960
ship totally to yourself where it's that

2162
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:58,159
silent

2163
01:38:05,430 --> 01:38:01,199
but um there needs to be anybody that

2164
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:05,440
missed uh this opportunity with the dark

2165
01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:06,480
zone

2166
01:38:12,950 --> 01:38:09,840
uh you you you really uh

2167
01:38:14,709 --> 01:38:12,960
you missed this it's different than when

2168
01:38:15,910 --> 01:38:14,719
you're watching something on television

2169
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:15,920
and you're thinking to yourself man i

2170
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:18,000
wish i could be there

2171
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:20,639
you had the opportunity to be there to

2172
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:22,080
look at the cameras to see the

2173
01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:24,000
investigations to be a part of it to be

2174
01:38:28,709 --> 01:38:25,119
in the chat

2175
01:38:32,149 --> 01:38:28,719
um and and to be uh

2176
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:32,159
you know like you were right there and i

2177
01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:33,600
for people that are listening to us

2178
01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:36,000
right now going ah man well

2179
01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:38,320
yeah you did kind of miss it it was it

2180
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:39,679
was pretty incredible

2181
01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:42,159
there um i posted an interview that you

2182
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,800
and i did

2183
01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:44,480
uh you were talking about uh the new

2184
01:38:50,149 --> 01:38:46,159
evox 2.0

2185
01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:50,159
but in that interview um your wife and

2186
01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:53,600
is she there she's not she's not at the

2187
01:38:58,310 --> 01:38:54,159
moment

2188
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:58,320
okay okay um uh your wife uh say her

2189
01:39:04,390 --> 01:39:01,440
it's sheree right correct yeah

2190
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:04,400
cherie said um uh during the interview

2191
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:06,080
and everybody can go and watch it it's

2192
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:08,000
up on my uh facebook page and tony

2193
01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:08,400
you're

2194
01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:11,280
welcome to uh i'll send it to you but

2195
01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:12,239
you can share it

2196
01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:15,920
cool um she says uh

2197
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:18,800
you were up on uh you were at the in the

2198
01:39:22,709 --> 01:39:19,520
bridge

2199
01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:22,719
right uh with it with the evox 2 and

2200
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:24,800
something happened up there

2201
01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:27,040
she mentions it briefly in the interview

2202
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:29,040
what happened

2203
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:30,800
well there were two i'm not sure which

2204
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:31,920
one you're talking about there were two

2205
01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,880
things that happened

2206
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:34,480
actually the first one was in the queen

2207
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:36,480
salon and

2208
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:39,840
we were just testing the box because um

2209
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:40,800
we've never

2210
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:46,000
container which is what the queen mary

2211
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:46,560
is

2212
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:48,400
until you get up high enough on the

2213
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:50,960
decks where some of that steel casing

2214
01:39:53,830 --> 01:39:51,280
that

2215
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:53,840
encompasses the bottom and floatation of

2216
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,600
that ship

2217
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:58,080
it would block out you know emf it would

2218
01:40:01,030 --> 01:40:00,080
block out radio frequencies it would

2219
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:01,040
block out

2220
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:03,600
cell phones everything so we were

2221
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,639
continually

2222
01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:06,800
climbing in the ship to try to find out

2223
01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:08,159
what rooms it would work and well we

2224
01:40:13,270 --> 01:40:10,159
were in the queen salon

2225
01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:13,280
and i literally had the box on and i

2226
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,480
just said

2227
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:17,119
what ship are we on and the answer came

2228
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:17,679
back

2229
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:20,159
the queen which was we thought was

2230
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:20,960
absolutely

2231
01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:23,840
fascinating and then the other one on

2232
01:40:26,709 --> 01:40:25,280
the bridge which is the one i think

2233
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:26,719
you're referring to

2234
01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:29,920
i asked who the captain was captain of

2235
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:31,679
the ship now there's ben morton

2236
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:35,600
i think there's more than one but

2237
01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:39,040
one of the one of the queen mary

2238
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:41,920
um gentlemen who worked there and had

2239
01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:42,719
has worked

2240
01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:46,239
on the ship for 39 years heard

2241
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:49,760
um heard the answer to to the captain i

2242
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:51,520
think the answer was mars

2243
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:53,360
was the name that had come through and

2244
01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:56,400
we reviewed it it is there

2245
01:41:02,149 --> 01:40:59,920
and was there a captain named mars

2246
01:41:03,270 --> 01:41:02,159
yes there was oh that's that's crazy

2247
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:03,280
town

2248
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:10,239
um you can go watch the uh uh the

2249
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:11,679
interview on facebook

2250
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:13,760
uh and you can see the box that we're

2251
01:41:18,790 --> 01:41:14,960
talking about

2252
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:18,800
the evox two were i think most uh

2253
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:21,520
of us now are familiar with the spirit

2254
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:22,639
boxes

2255
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:25,920
of me

2256
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:28,239
it's it's really it's really bad

2257
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:29,600
television

2258
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:33,040
right right it's right and uh it's just

2259
01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:33,679
loud

2260
01:41:38,470 --> 01:41:36,719
white noise continuous uh you get the

2261
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:38,480
interaction but you have to wait but you

2262
01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:40,159
have to put up with

2263
01:41:43,590 --> 01:41:43,119
loud white noise uh in between it drives

2264
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:43,600
me

2265
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:47,520
the evox

2266
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:50,800
2 to get rid of

2267
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:52,880
all of the irritating white noise right

2268
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:56,639
is that basically what the evox 2 is

2269
01:42:01,030 --> 01:41:58,800
well yeah it does it does more than that

2270
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:01,040
but but that was the first

2271
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:03,040
thing to accomplish i mean we started

2272
01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:04,960
out like everybody else with a

2273
01:42:10,470 --> 01:42:08,239
eighty dollar psd seven and they do work

2274
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:10,480
don't get me wrong the psp sevens do

2275
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:13,600
work but like you said you have this

2276
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:16,480
white rushing noise and the faster you

2277
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:17,040
scan

2278
01:42:22,310 --> 01:42:21,280
the the more more of a rushing sensation

2279
01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:22,320
they give

2280
01:42:25,510 --> 01:42:24,800
and the answers do come through the tsp7

2281
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:25,520
but it is

2282
01:42:31,270 --> 01:42:28,480
muffled within the the white noise the

2283
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:31,280
static sound the switching of stations

2284
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,360
and i thought there's got to be a way to

2285
01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:34,880
get rid of this

2286
01:42:41,109 --> 01:42:38,320
and so we kept building we built ones

2287
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:41,119
one right after another for for years

2288
01:42:44,470 --> 01:42:42,719
and then we got to hold some circuitry

2289
01:42:48,310 --> 01:42:44,480
and i said okay this is it

2290
01:42:50,070 --> 01:42:48,320
and we had placed partial or a partial

2291
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:50,080
amount of that circuitry into the

2292
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:50,719
regular

2293
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,199
first e-box then the second one we

2294
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:55,440
applied some other components

2295
01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:58,719
and not only is there no sound until you

2296
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,960
get a response and they speak

2297
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:02,719
when they so there's no white noise

2298
01:43:07,990 --> 01:43:04,960
there's no rushing when they speak

2299
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:08,000
it is clear you can you can hear the

2300
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:09,679
voice you don't have to say okay was

2301
01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:12,000
that a voice what word was that

2302
01:43:17,189 --> 01:43:15,679
um it's it's almost as if you were

2303
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:17,199
listening to like a straight radio i

2304
01:43:22,830 --> 01:43:19,040
mean the voice is clear

2305
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,840
and then we made adjustments to make it

2306
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,800
scan um

2307
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:27,119
larger frequencies than you're like

2308
01:43:31,510 --> 01:43:28,960
where you're and to avoid

2309
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:31,520
typical radio stations where we know

2310
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:32,560
that they

2311
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:35,440
they produce on regular radio stations

2312
01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:37,119
usually have certain numbers and you can

2313
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:41,280
go to any city and find a a 95.9 station

2314
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,600
so we had the box skip those so that

2315
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:45,760
we're avoiding radio

2316
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:49,199
and um the whole combination of

2317
01:43:52,229 --> 01:43:51,040
of different circuitries and stuff we

2318
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:52,239
used in the box

2319
01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:55,280
just created this unbelievably clear

2320
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:58,320
no static sound and um has worked

2321
01:44:03,270 --> 01:43:59,920
phenomenal for us

2322
01:44:04,830 --> 01:44:03,280
it uh it was it was pretty amazing to

2323
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:04,840
watch it in action

2324
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:07,600
because uh there's a couple of other

2325
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:08,960
things that come into play one you don't

2326
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:10,480
have the white static right you don't

2327
01:44:16,070 --> 01:44:11,760
have the white noise

2328
01:44:20,070 --> 01:44:16,080
and and two you've got a visual

2329
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:20,080
uh display of the audio as it comes in

2330
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:24,000
in in frequencies as a as a graphic

2331
01:44:28,550 --> 01:44:24,560
display

2332
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:28,560
like a an active graphic equalizer right

2333
01:44:32,229 --> 01:44:31,199
but correct so you have both you have

2334
01:44:35,750 --> 01:44:32,239
the audio

2335
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:35,760
and the visual coming in and you can see

2336
01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:38,480
the full spectrum of of the voice as it

2337
01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:41,840
comes through too as well very unique

2338
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:44,000
well that that graph actually does other

2339
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:45,040
things too

2340
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:48,159
um you know we we study ddps for so long

2341
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:49,679
trying to figure out when we got one on

2342
01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:52,719
a recorder you know what hurts or what

2343
01:44:56,070 --> 01:44:55,040
megahertz were these voices coming in at

2344
01:44:59,189 --> 01:44:56,080
well that graph

2345
01:45:01,830 --> 01:44:59,199
will also tell us all that so

2346
01:45:03,350 --> 01:45:01,840
when a voice comes through and i never

2347
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:03,360
got a chance to switch through the

2348
01:45:06,470 --> 01:45:04,239
screens

2349
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:06,480
but it'll when a voice comes through

2350
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:07,600
it'll show you

2351
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:10,639
exactly what either megahertz or

2352
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:13,600
hurts that sounds coming in at and if

2353
01:45:18,310 --> 01:45:15,600
you watch those continuously

2354
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:18,320
there is some repetition between 100 and

2355
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:19,760
300 megahertz

2356
01:45:24,070 --> 01:45:22,159
of where those those voices are coming

2357
01:45:28,149 --> 01:45:24,080
in which is similar to evp

2358
01:45:31,430 --> 01:45:28,159
also 100 to 350 maybe

2359
01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:31,440
um um megahertz so that

2360
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:33,119
we thought that was fascinating as well

2361
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:34,960
that the machine can actually tell you

2362
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:35,920
what those

2363
01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:39,520
are coming through it yeah and

2364
01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:42,960
i also uh from our little

2365
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:45,600
uh session in the churchill suite i sent

2366
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:46,960
out a tweet

2367
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,159
uh to my audience uh to

2368
01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:52,560
see kathleen and i did it together okay

2369
01:45:56,709 --> 01:45:54,320
who heard the voices

2370
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:56,719
or who heard the voice did anybody hear

2371
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:58,080
a voice uh

2372
01:46:02,149 --> 01:46:00,239
in the churchill suite and the response

2373
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:02,159
was was

2374
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:05,199
was instant and

2375
01:46:09,990 --> 01:46:07,840
everybody heard the female voice and

2376
01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:10,000
that was through the cameras

2377
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:12,880
so yeah the voice was there but there

2378
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:13,280
was

2379
01:46:18,550 --> 01:46:16,560
also uh a bunch of comments

2380
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:18,560
about other voices that it wasn't just

2381
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:20,000
the one that i was talking about that

2382
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:20,719
that there were

2383
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:23,199
other ones uh that seemed to be coming

2384
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:24,719
through so

2385
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:26,639
um i'm pretty excited about that but

2386
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:27,760
when people are

2387
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:30,880
are referring to this um

2388
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:34,159
uh you're the expert in in evps

2389
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:38,080
what is generating this is it em

2390
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:40,960
you know is it electricity in the ether

2391
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:43,119
you don't have vocal cords that's not

2392
01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:45,840
what is creating this right we we know

2393
01:46:50,310 --> 01:46:46,880
that right

2394
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:50,320
so what is your

2395
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:52,239
well you know you got to think of it in

2396
01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:53,440
terms of

2397
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:55,840
you know my father taught physics

2398
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:56,639
chemistry

2399
01:46:59,669 --> 01:46:58,560
and physical science and when i got into

2400
01:47:01,590 --> 01:46:59,679
the paranormal

2401
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:01,600
some of the toughest questions i ever

2402
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:02,880
had to answer

2403
01:47:07,430 --> 01:47:05,360
came from my own father saying how's

2404
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:07,440
that possible how does that work

2405
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:10,320
well again most of the stuff that is

2406
01:47:13,510 --> 01:47:12,080
being researched in the paranormal is

2407
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:13,520
all based on theory

2408
01:47:17,030 --> 01:47:16,000
but if you think about it like this yes

2409
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:17,040
there is no

2410
01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:21,360
no throat to produce the sound there's

2411
01:47:25,990 --> 01:47:22,159
no vocal

2412
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:26,000
chords it's not human speech

2413
01:47:31,030 --> 01:47:28,719
but if you think about it in terms of

2414
01:47:33,830 --> 01:47:31,040
physics and think about it in terms of

2415
01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:33,840
energy and if you think how the vocal

2416
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:34,880
cords

2417
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:38,560
vibrate those waves of sound to get the

2418
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:40,560
molecules to produce those waves of

2419
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:41,600
sound

2420
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:45,679
a spirit being an energy being

2421
01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:47,679
can easily and they can they can

2422
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:50,080
manipulate any piece of electronics

2423
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:51,840
known to man i mean evps have come

2424
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:53,520
through phone calls they've come through

2425
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:55,040
cell phones they've shown up on

2426
01:47:58,629 --> 01:47:57,280
answering machines all the way back to

2427
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:58,639
the first

2428
01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:01,440
line recorder that you used to crank and

2429
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,400
it would record

2430
01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:05,199
record sound that was used by monks way

2431
01:48:08,629 --> 01:48:06,159
back

2432
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:08,639
um hundreds of years ago or 100 years

2433
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:09,280
ago

2434
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:12,400
they were getting evps um

2435
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:14,960
so you got to think of it as they're

2436
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:17,440
using that energy whether that be emf

2437
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:19,840
energy whether it be radio wave energy

2438
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:22,159
but they have the ability to manipulate

2439
01:48:25,030 --> 01:48:22,880
waves or

2440
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:25,040
create waves of energy so there's no

2441
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:27,760
vocals there's no throat producing it

2442
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:29,600
they're using energy to produce those

2443
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:31,840
sounds whether that be inside a recorder

2444
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:33,600
to leave an evp

2445
01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:36,960
or in our case to vibrate the the waves

2446
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:38,000
of sound

2447
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:40,000
to create what they want to say which

2448
01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:41,840
enters our ear and we hear it with our

2449
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:42,880
own ears

2450
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:46,480
now i went uh

2451
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:49,360
and and posted some images that i took

2452
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:49,760
uh

2453
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:53,040
your

2454
01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:58,080
impressed with that it's a dude thing

2455
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:01,199
by the way well and

2456
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:04,239
and look and and your uh your bug

2457
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:07,199
out bag uh i only got to see what was on

2458
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:08,159
the top

2459
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:10,480
you carry a lot of gear with you what

2460
01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:11,280
are the main

2461
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:13,280
pieces when you go on an investigation

2462
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:15,520
what are the essentials

2463
01:49:21,350 --> 01:49:19,280
well essentials are definitely um camera

2464
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:21,360
video camera which includes either full

2465
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:23,119
spectrum or night vision we just take

2466
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,119
that all the time because

2467
01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:27,360
um you know when you can when you can

2468
01:49:31,589 --> 01:49:28,320
record in

2469
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:31,599
all three visual spectrums um visual

2470
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,159
light

2471
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,800
uh night vision and full spectrum then

2472
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:36,480
you're not missing those three that make

2473
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:38,080
up everything and if you can capture

2474
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:38,639
photos

2475
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:40,960
and video in that that's what you want

2476
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:42,719
to make sure you didn't miss anything so

2477
01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:44,320
that's a must for us

2478
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:47,520
um the other absolute musts are

2479
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:50,639
um you know we'll we'll take laser grits

2480
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:52,000
just to make sure because a lot of times

2481
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:53,440
when we go out you know you want to know

2482
01:49:57,990 --> 01:49:55,360
if something's moving through areas or

2483
01:49:59,830 --> 01:49:58,000
shadow figures are happening digital

2484
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:59,840
recorders are an absolute must we'll

2485
01:50:04,709 --> 01:50:01,599
even bring parabolic mics

2486
01:50:06,950 --> 01:50:04,719
the hardest thing for us to ever do

2487
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:06,960
is if we're limited like we're on a

2488
01:50:11,669 --> 01:50:08,639
short flight or something and our

2489
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:11,679
our luggage is limited the the hardest

2490
01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:12,719
thing to figure out

2491
01:50:17,109 --> 01:50:15,599
is what stays behind because i mean just

2492
01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:17,119
when we went out to the queen mary we

2493
01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:17,520
were

2494
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:21,040
driving a simple um nissan altima

2495
01:50:27,589 --> 01:50:24,400
and we had two full of like those

2496
01:50:28,550 --> 01:50:27,599
uh hotel luggage rack carts full of gear

2497
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:28,560
we brought in because

2498
01:50:31,589 --> 01:50:30,000
we didn't want to leave anything behind

2499
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:31,599
mm-hmm

2500
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:34,800
and uh the meters uh

2501
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:37,440
that uh are placed out again i'm not the

2502
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:40,239
expert here i hear or this is a k2 meter

2503
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:43,440
this this is a um what are the meters uh

2504
01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:43,920
that

2505
01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:48,159
with us

2506
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:51,599
we had k2 meters now all of these meters

2507
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:54,960
are measuring emf or electromagnetic

2508
01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:56,560
frequency

2509
01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:59,440
the the theory is is that spirits use or

2510
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,800
give off

2511
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:02,800
electromagnetic frequency because of

2512
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:04,400
their energy makeup

2513
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:07,280
and when you get disturbances um they

2514
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:08,719
can be paranormal

2515
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:11,920
so the k2 the tri meter even

2516
01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:15,119
the skull rum rem pod that we had

2517
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:16,960
all and we have all sorts of other ones

2518
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:18,639
too but those are the three that i think

2519
01:51:21,350 --> 01:51:19,440
that were

2520
01:51:23,669 --> 01:51:21,360
shown on the queen mary but those all

2521
01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:23,679
measure changes in emf

2522
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:26,400
and when you when those go off there is

2523
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:28,320
a possibility that something

2524
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:30,960
paranormal is either about to happen or

2525
01:51:34,310 --> 01:51:33,199
is happening so we used all those to

2526
01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:34,320
identify that

2527
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:37,840
yeah em is uh what i find

2528
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:40,960
uh about that getting away from all of

2529
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:43,520
the paranormal investigations i do a lot

2530
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:43,840
of

2531
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:47,119
uh research in science and physics

2532
01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:49,679
and and the universe and theoretical

2533
01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:51,040
physics i am that's

2534
01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:54,320
one of my main focuses of research all

2535
01:51:57,750 --> 01:51:54,560
of

2536
01:52:00,870 --> 01:51:57,760
uh

2537
01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:00,880
the big bang and forward for 13.8

2538
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:02,000
billion years

2539
01:52:06,149 --> 01:52:04,960
all the research is around em right

2540
01:52:14,149 --> 01:52:06,159
that's it

2541
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:14,159
very interestingly so a very big part of

2542
01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:17,920
paranormal investigations if you answer

2543
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:21,520
em and and theoretical physics and

2544
01:52:24,629 --> 01:52:23,920
and what is going on in the universe

2545
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:24,639
then you

2546
01:52:28,229 --> 01:52:27,599
sort of are are figuring out what's

2547
01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:28,239
going on

2548
01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:31,360
in the paranormal world and spirits and

2549
01:52:34,550 --> 01:52:32,719
and consciousness

2550
01:52:36,229 --> 01:52:34,560
and and everything else that goes along

2551
01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:36,239
with it right

2552
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:37,599
well that that makes perfect sense

2553
01:52:41,510 --> 01:52:39,760
because if you if you're talking about

2554
01:52:43,270 --> 01:52:41,520
the universe and the creation and all

2555
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:43,280
that sort of thing and em

2556
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:46,400
is your your sort of built building one

2557
01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:47,440
block

2558
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:50,000
um you know if you're talking about the

2559
01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:51,440
life as a human

2560
01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:54,239
and then what would maybe become after

2561
01:52:57,910 --> 01:52:55,520
that life

2562
01:52:58,870 --> 01:52:57,920
to look into those similarities of those

2563
01:53:01,430 --> 01:52:58,880
same blocks

2564
01:53:01,910 --> 01:53:01,440
makes sense and and that makes you know

2565
01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:01,920
from a

2566
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:06,800
paranormal that's what we all work from

2567
01:53:10,390 --> 01:53:08,080
you know you got to start with something

2568
01:53:12,870 --> 01:53:10,400
that at least makes sense and that does

2569
01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:12,880
now there was one other thing that

2570
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:13,599
happened

2571
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:17,920
uh i i we need to talk about this

2572
01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:20,320
when we when we were in the churchill

2573
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:21,599
suite everybody

2574
01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:24,080
uh i want you to understand we had about

2575
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:24,800
uh

2576
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:27,280
10 or 15 people in the suite four of

2577
01:53:31,189 --> 01:53:28,880
them are camera

2578
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:31,199
and and sound and then there were

2579
01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:32,480
another ten of us

2580
01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:35,040
or so eight or ten of us that were part

2581
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:37,360
of the investigation crew

2582
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:41,360
one of our group was uh brianna

2583
01:53:45,270 --> 01:53:43,840
and brianna as it turns out and i didn't

2584
01:53:48,310 --> 01:53:45,280
know about this

2585
01:53:52,830 --> 01:53:48,320
is uh a singer broadway but

2586
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:52,840
she was in uh rent for example

2587
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:56,239
um uh to live and die in l.a

2588
01:54:02,870 --> 01:53:59,440
anyway brianna was this

2589
01:54:05,270 --> 01:54:02,880
uh is this amazing singer and

2590
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:05,280
what song did she sing somewhere over

2591
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:06,239
the rainbow

2592
01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:08,000
what did she sing i can't remember this

2593
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:10,159
but she's she said i think the first one

2594
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:10,960
did she

2595
01:54:17,030 --> 01:54:14,800
first one i i can't remember okay

2596
01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:17,040
well anyway i don't think any of us were

2597
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:19,280
prepared for the voice that came out of

2598
01:54:22,709 --> 01:54:19,920
her

2599
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:22,719
oh man it was amazing amazing amazing

2600
01:54:27,589 --> 01:54:25,360
and if you saw it live you saw it live

2601
01:54:29,669 --> 01:54:27,599
okay so we're all in the moment we've

2602
01:54:31,750 --> 01:54:29,679
got the lights down we got the cameras

2603
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:31,760
going we got the candle light we got the

2604
01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:33,679
little uh tesla coil

2605
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:37,280
in the background but around the room

2606
01:54:43,430 --> 01:54:40,400
we had a tri-meter a k2

2607
01:54:46,709 --> 01:54:43,440
we had the evox 2.0

2608
01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:46,719
uh it seemed like we had a third

2609
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,360
something else that lit up there was

2610
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:51,440
three well anyway

2611
01:54:57,990 --> 01:54:54,880
brianna sings and after she's done

2612
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:58,000
we applaud and at that moment

2613
01:55:01,589 --> 01:54:59,360
everything in the room went off at the

2614
01:55:04,149 --> 01:55:01,599
same time

2615
01:55:05,669 --> 01:55:04,159
all at once i mean not even like one

2616
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:05,679
after the other i mean

2617
01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:07,920
it was absolutely simultaneously

2618
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:09,199
occurred

2619
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:11,280
right together every all the three

2620
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:13,440
pieces the other one was the skull

2621
01:55:17,189 --> 01:55:16,320
rem pod right right right right shot off

2622
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:17,199
immediately

2623
01:55:22,470 --> 01:55:20,480
christmas lights yep yeah christmas

2624
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:22,480
lights well we're in the dark right and

2625
01:55:27,109 --> 01:55:25,679
and so where i i uh from where i was

2626
01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:27,119
sitting i could see

2627
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:29,440
all of the lights at the same time they

2628
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:30,960
happen to be in a position where i could

2629
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:32,560
see it and i saw them all

2630
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:35,840
fire off at the same time

2631
01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:38,880
as she ended the song now what's going

2632
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:41,599
on there you as an investigator

2633
01:55:47,270 --> 01:55:45,679
um that that's that's not coincidence is

2634
01:55:49,990 --> 01:55:47,280
it

2635
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:50,000
no especially to someone who's

2636
01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:52,239
experienced stuff like that before

2637
01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:54,639
but i mean let's face it um you know

2638
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:55,520
music has

2639
01:56:00,550 --> 01:55:58,639
a huge appeal to every living human

2640
01:56:01,189 --> 01:56:00,560
being regardless of what type of music

2641
01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:01,199
it is

2642
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:03,360
while the song that she's saying was

2643
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:05,360
from the time period

2644
01:56:09,669 --> 01:56:07,840
when a lot of these people were

2645
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:09,679
traveling on the ship i mean it started

2646
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:10,400
out as a

2647
01:56:16,149 --> 01:56:14,239
as a cruise ship as a luxury lying liner

2648
01:56:18,149 --> 01:56:16,159
and you know it had multiple uses after

2649
01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:18,159
that but you know you had people like

2650
01:56:20,950 --> 01:56:20,159
winston churchill there you had people

2651
01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:20,960
like

2652
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:24,400
um um i'm trying to think of the guy

2653
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:25,760
they said the shadow looked like

2654
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:28,560
um alfred hitchcock was actually wrote

2655
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:29,040
on the

2656
01:56:36,629 --> 01:56:32,560
fit that time

2657
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:36,639
frame and hoping that it would

2658
01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:39,760
entice paranormal

2659
01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:41,920
experiences because the music would draw

2660
01:56:46,709 --> 01:56:44,320
them in or they'd want to interact or

2661
01:56:48,709 --> 01:56:46,719
and the fact that all those meters went

2662
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:48,719
off the second she stopped i mean it was

2663
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:50,159
like an applause

2664
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:52,639
and not an applause from one meter but

2665
01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:53,840
an applause from

2666
01:56:58,229 --> 01:56:56,000
all of them meaning maybe it was more

2667
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:58,239
than one spirit maybe one just loved it

2668
01:57:02,790 --> 01:56:59,520
and wanted to make sure

2669
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:02,800
they all went off but uh

2670
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:04,880
it shows a correlation between what had

2671
01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:07,360
occurred what she's saying the time

2672
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:09,040
frame that it matched

2673
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:11,280
and hopefully that correlated to the

2674
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:12,400
spirits that

2675
01:57:15,430 --> 01:57:14,159
shot all the meters off saying hey that

2676
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:15,440
was great well and

2677
01:57:22,149 --> 01:57:18,719
and here's here's the thing for me

2678
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:22,159
we were in that room for over an hour

2679
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:25,520
and the meters never went off and

2680
01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:28,480
no they they went off simultaneously at

2681
01:57:31,510 --> 01:57:29,280
the end of her

2682
01:57:33,910 --> 01:57:31,520
so then we tried to replicate it and

2683
01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:33,920
this is what was cool

2684
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:36,960
she's saying again it didn't happen

2685
01:57:40,629 --> 01:57:39,520
we tried we applauded you know we did it

2686
01:57:44,149 --> 01:57:40,639
so it wasn't

2687
01:57:46,390 --> 01:57:44,159
us that set it off right

2688
01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:46,400
it wasn't our excitement it wasn't us in

2689
01:57:49,350 --> 01:57:47,520
the room

2690
01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:49,360
we replicated it now if they would have

2691
01:57:53,030 --> 01:57:51,360
gone off a second time

2692
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:53,040
it would have said okay well maybe the

2693
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:55,360
spirits were happy with that other song

2694
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:58,719
or maybe it was just us right in our

2695
01:58:02,149 --> 01:57:59,440
excitement

2696
01:58:03,830 --> 01:58:02,159
in our applaud maybe we created some em

2697
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:03,840
in the room that set everything off

2698
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:06,080
but we tried and it didn't set off a

2699
01:58:10,310 --> 01:58:08,080
second time which says to me

2700
01:58:13,510 --> 01:58:10,320
that something unique went down the

2701
01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:13,520
first time and it was very cool to see

2702
01:58:16,870 --> 01:58:15,280
it absolutely was you know a lot of

2703
01:58:18,870 --> 01:58:16,880
people say well you're surrounded by

2704
01:58:21,750 --> 01:58:18,880
cameraman you're surrounded by

2705
01:58:24,310 --> 01:58:21,760
you know all these electronics but if it

2706
01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:24,320
was any of the electronics in the room

2707
01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:26,239
they would have gone off prior like you

2708
01:58:30,790 --> 01:58:27,679
said we were in there for an

2709
01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:30,800
hour they weren't doing anything until

2710
01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:31,280
she

2711
01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:35,520
they all sparked up so

2712
01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:37,920
you're absolutely right now um really

2713
01:58:41,270 --> 01:58:39,520
quick uh before we uh

2714
01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:41,280
get to the break oh let me thank you and

2715
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:43,440
cherie uh before we get to the break by

2716
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:45,440
the way and i look forward

2717
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:47,679
to having on the show in in the future

2718
01:58:49,589 --> 01:58:48,960
we're going to do this very soon

2719
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:49,599
everybody

2720
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:51,360
we're going to do a full show with tony

2721
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:53,040
and sheree but um

2722
01:58:56,870 --> 01:58:54,400
have you had a chance to go back and

2723
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:56,880
review the footage from

2724
01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:01,199
the churchill suite because i my memory

2725
01:59:07,350 --> 01:59:05,119
says that the evox 2.0

2726
01:59:08,229 --> 01:59:07,360
also said something at the end of her

2727
01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:08,239
song did it

2728
01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:11,520
or or was that my imagination no

2729
01:59:15,910 --> 01:59:13,679
it it did and i believe that was the

2730
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:15,920
second time instead of the meters going

2731
01:59:20,950 --> 01:59:18,000
off when we retested it

2732
01:59:21,669 --> 01:59:20,960
i remember susan saying it sounded like

2733
01:59:24,470 --> 01:59:21,679
clapping

2734
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:24,480
coming from that's what it was no that's

2735
01:59:29,270 --> 01:59:26,480
right that's right that's right

2736
01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:29,280
okay yeah i for i forgot about that see

2737
01:59:33,189 --> 01:59:30,000
so much stuff

2738
01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:33,199
went down what tony's referring to after

2739
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:35,040
the second song

2740
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:38,239
and we finished our applause and we're

2741
01:59:46,550 --> 01:59:39,840
now in silence

2742
01:59:52,870 --> 01:59:49,750
i was sitting right next to it and

2743
01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:52,880
and it's that's right it said clapping

2744
01:59:57,990 --> 01:59:56,080
yeah wow what a what a great time and

2745
01:59:59,830 --> 01:59:58,000
uh listen i've i've got to head to a

2746
02:00:01,589 --> 01:59:59,840
break tony and you guys just drove

2747
02:00:03,350 --> 02:00:01,599
no problem you just drove eight hours

2748
02:00:05,830 --> 02:00:03,360
from l.a you've been working for four or

2749
02:00:09,189 --> 02:00:05,840
five straight days six days seven days

2750
02:00:10,790 --> 02:00:09,199
relax give our best to cherie and i look

2751
02:00:11,589 --> 02:00:10,800
forward to getting you back on the show

2752
02:00:13,189 --> 02:00:11,599
and we can

2753
02:00:14,629 --> 02:00:13,199
we can just have at it for a couple

2754
02:00:16,149 --> 02:00:14,639
hours

2755
02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:16,159
sounds great jimmy thank you so much

2756
02:00:18,790 --> 02:00:17,679
this was fun to talk about and we'll

2757
02:00:20,790 --> 02:00:18,800
we'll talk again

2758
02:00:22,550 --> 02:00:20,800
down the line tony where can everybody

2759
02:00:26,470 --> 02:00:22,560
reach you

2760
02:00:29,030 --> 02:00:26,480
uh i can be reached at uh ncvoices.com

2761
02:00:31,430 --> 02:00:29,040
the email is listed uh i can be reached

2762
02:00:34,390 --> 02:00:31,440
on facebook under tony ratsman or

2763
02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:34,400
under nc voices um we're all over the

2764
02:00:37,510 --> 02:00:36,320
place we're on twitter we're on facebook

2765
02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:37,520
we're on youtube

2766
02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:39,520
uh the communication through youtube

2767
02:00:44,390 --> 02:00:41,199
isn't the best it's just messaging but

2768
02:00:45,990 --> 02:00:44,400
uh definitely on entityvoices.com or

2769
02:00:49,669 --> 02:00:46,000
through even through our haunted

2770
02:00:50,229 --> 02:00:49,679
hospital which is uh coppercanyonprc.com

2771
02:00:51,589 --> 02:00:50,239
so

2772
02:00:53,270 --> 02:00:51,599
yeah go ahead and check that out if you

2773
02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:53,280
have questions let me know thank you so

2774
02:00:58,470 --> 02:00:56,000
much tony behave and be well

2775
02:01:01,070 --> 02:00:58,480
all right you too jimmy this is fade to

2776
02:01:03,030 --> 02:01:01,080
black that was tony rathman

2777
02:01:05,189 --> 02:01:03,040
entityvoices.com is

2778
02:01:06,629 --> 02:01:05,199
the website and you guys can do me a

2779
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host jimmy church tonight our queen mary

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recap special event

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i want to thank tony rathman for coming

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in he just drove eight hours from

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phoenix

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us tonight and

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he and his wife sheree thank you so much

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for that and now

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it's jay bloomke and jay one of the

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principals over

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at the dark zone but now uh

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internationally recognized show host

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what how you doing man i keep hearing

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that people

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keep saying oh you're a celebrity now

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and it's like what

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i'm just this guy he does this thing you

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found your calling man

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i i've got to look for a new gig

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jimmy thank you for having me on and um

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02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:19,199
i actually did listen to

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02:07:23,589 --> 02:07:21,760
uh your whole segment with tony that

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guy's pretty great he and his wife are

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02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:24,400
awesome

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they came down for the entire four days

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and set up a lot of gear a lot of the

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cameras that people were seeing out of

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the the uh rooms the isolated cameras

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the iso cams

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um he had set those up he helped us out

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a lot with the event

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and um he brought his own unique

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gear and uh i i just think that they

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were

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nobody else does really so i think it

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was great for the audience

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02:07:56,390 --> 02:07:53,840
you know you know what's really cool

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about tony and sheree total

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professionals yeah totally i mean

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they've got the

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the amazing personalities uh to go along

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with it

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but uh very grounded very professional

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very

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cool you know you know what's funny is

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uh

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they're also very laid back right yeah

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they're very back they're very relaxed

2955
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:16,000
but

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were up in the bridge the night after

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you were there

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and um they were taking part it was

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halloween night and they were taking

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part in

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um it's just an investigation on the

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bridge where there was an estus session

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and

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02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:34,880
them i said do you have your eva

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i know i said would your e-box work up

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here because the e-box wouldn't work in

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certain parts of the ship

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and he said yeah it would work up here

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just fine and i said

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uh can you go get it and man you i never

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saw such a tall man move

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02:08:52,709 --> 02:08:50,480
so quickly i mean that guy was

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out the door from the bridge you know he

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had to go with a

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uh a guide but he was out the door they

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went down all those stairs all those

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decks they got he came right back with

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that e-box and they were ready to go in

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about 10 minutes flat

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your ship is so big it's fast

2981
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it's it's it it's you can't describe it

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it's something that you have to

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experience it's it's huge

2984
02:09:17,910 --> 02:09:15,760
and it takes a lot of effort uh up and

2985
02:09:19,270 --> 02:09:17,920
down those stairs deck to deck to deck

2986
02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:19,280
you know we're going four or five

2987
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flights at a time

2988
02:09:24,550 --> 02:09:24,159
and i was like whoo man yeah you know

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and then

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and so you do you scan the four decks

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right you do that

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02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:30,560
and then you're looking at a hallway

2993
02:09:36,310 --> 02:09:33,360
that's like a mile long

2994
02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:36,320
and you got to do that but anyway okay

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02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:38,960
really quick before we get started here

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can uh everybody still

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go to the dark zone and and see the

2998
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replays of everything

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is that accessible yeah so so how it

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works is

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if you purchased a ticket well i mean

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first of all

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most everybody knows that uh while they

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were watching

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during each day the show would repeat

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immediately like right away

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uh so but if you purchased a ticket

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uh you have access to the video

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recordings which are not quite up yet

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the thing with the video recordings is

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there's usually a couple days where it

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has to process

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02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:16,400
us you know streaming files are

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different than video files and they have

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to

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that they'll play properly

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and you know as you can imagine these

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are gigantic

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files right huge so um they're going to

3020
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be converted

3021
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,800
they have to be uh on the network that

3022
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we're working with that has to be

3023
02:10:40,870 --> 02:10:37,599
activated and then converted

3024
02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:40,880
uh into all the varieties of streams

3025
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that you could have based on your

3026
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internet connections so

3027
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you know some people will get a 480 some

3028
02:10:50,470 --> 02:10:48,960
people will get a 720 some people can

3029
02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:50,480
watch the 1080

3030
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uh stream um but that takes a little

3031
02:10:55,990 --> 02:10:53,679
time so

3032
02:10:57,750 --> 02:10:56,000
if they have a couple days well and the

3033
02:10:59,910 --> 02:10:57,760
other question i'm asking is if they

3034
02:11:02,310 --> 02:10:59,920
didn't purchase a ticket can they con

3035
02:11:03,589 --> 02:11:02,320
can they still purchase a ticket and go

3036
02:11:04,709 --> 02:11:03,599
and watch everything that we were

3037
02:11:07,189 --> 02:11:04,719
talking about

3038
02:11:08,069 --> 02:11:07,199
absolutely and it's it's a little

3039
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different

3040
02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:11,520
than uh paying the 1999 for the entire

3041
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:12,960
four days you can actually just get one

3042
02:11:15,510 --> 02:11:14,079
day if you want

3043
02:11:17,189 --> 02:11:15,520
you can go in there and just get one day

3044
02:11:19,750 --> 02:11:17,199
each day is 4.99

3045
02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:19,760
you know uh and you can you can either

3046
02:11:23,669 --> 02:11:21,440
get all of them or you can just

3047
02:11:25,109 --> 02:11:23,679
see you know whichever one you wanted to

3048
02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:25,119
see if you had a certain

3049
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:27,040
uh you know paranormal investigator that

3050
02:11:30,470 --> 02:11:28,719
you were really interested in watching

3051
02:11:31,990 --> 02:11:30,480
you can just get that guy's day or you

3052
02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:32,000
can watch all the events i mean i think

3053
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:33,040
every day

3054
02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:34,880
we were kind of like the show was

3055
02:11:38,790 --> 02:11:37,040
getting more complicated and

3056
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:38,800
different and better each day was kind

3057
02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:40,480
of a different presentation so i

3058
02:11:43,750 --> 02:11:41,920
every day was very unique and i think

3059
02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:43,760
that uh i think that most people would

3060
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:44,400
want to get

3061
02:11:48,310 --> 02:11:47,679
all the days now uh let's let's get

3062
02:11:51,910 --> 02:11:48,320
straight

3063
02:11:54,709 --> 02:11:51,920
to uh you know

3064
02:11:56,149 --> 02:11:54,719
i just heard i was just given the word

3065
02:12:00,270 --> 02:11:56,159
day one is up

3066
02:12:02,950 --> 02:12:00,280
links are right there at

3067
02:12:06,069 --> 02:12:02,960
jimmychurchradio.com we also have it

3068
02:12:07,189 --> 02:12:06,079
uh uh up throughout social media where

3069
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:07,199
you can go

3070
02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:09,520
uh i'm sure my promo code will still

3071
02:12:13,030 --> 02:12:11,440
work maybe too as well you can try that

3072
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:13,040
if it doesn't it doesn't but

3073
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:15,679
uh which is jimmy but you need to go and

3074
02:12:19,750 --> 02:12:16,719
check out

3075
02:12:22,310 --> 02:12:19,760
this footage and and specifically

3076
02:12:22,870 --> 02:12:22,320
what was really cool jay i'm watching

3077
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:22,880
you

3078
02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:34,159
pretty incredible and and that was a lot

3079
02:12:37,430 --> 02:12:35,040
of fun to watch

3080
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:37,440
but you were also part of the

3081
02:12:42,310 --> 02:12:38,480
investigations

3082
02:12:46,149 --> 02:12:42,320
now what i want to specifically get to

3083
02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:46,159
was the door slam when we were

3084
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:49,199
up in sir winston's right and

3085
02:12:53,669 --> 02:12:51,440
now uh for everybody there we're going

3086
02:12:54,229 --> 02:12:53,679
to talk about jay's sd session in a

3087
02:12:57,430 --> 02:12:54,239
second

3088
02:12:59,910 --> 02:12:57,440
that was that was pretty incredible and

3089
02:13:02,229 --> 02:12:59,920
um i think my lucky stars and everything

3090
02:13:04,149 --> 02:13:02,239
that is holy that i was able to

3091
02:13:06,149 --> 02:13:04,159
sit there and ask you those questions

3092
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:06,159
and and do that personally and we'll get

3093
02:13:10,709 --> 02:13:07,599
to that in a second

3094
02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:10,719
but at the end of our

3095
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:13,599
session i want you to set the stage you

3096
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:14,480
were there

3097
02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:17,840
uh you were standing to my right i was

3098
02:13:23,030 --> 02:13:19,760
sitting in the chair

3099
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:23,040
but everybody was uh concentrated on one

3100
02:13:26,709 --> 02:13:24,320
side of the lounge

3101
02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:26,719
over by the grand piano the back side of

3102
02:13:31,189 --> 02:13:27,920
the lounge

3103
02:13:33,270 --> 02:13:31,199
was untouched nobody went back there

3104
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:33,280
for the entire session and we were up

3105
02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:35,119
there for what hour and a half

3106
02:13:39,030 --> 02:13:38,480
probably okay so at the end of the

3107
02:13:41,990 --> 02:13:39,040
session

3108
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:42,000
we're all there discussing you we're

3109
02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:43,199
talking about you

3110
02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:45,520
and your sd session and then when the

3111
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:47,040
room went silent

3112
02:13:51,990 --> 02:13:49,920
that's when it happened the the door

3113
02:13:54,069 --> 02:13:52,000
slam

3114
02:13:55,589 --> 02:13:54,079
when when that went what went through

3115
02:13:57,510 --> 02:13:55,599
your mind i about

3116
02:13:58,950 --> 02:13:57,520
my heart about jumped out of my chest

3117
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:58,960
but as you as you know i

3118
02:14:03,109 --> 02:14:01,040
i didn't hear it i i was even i was

3119
02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:03,119
unaware of it right because i was in the

3120
02:14:07,030 --> 02:14:04,960
i was in the uh headphones

3121
02:14:09,030 --> 02:14:07,040
when i came out that's when you guys

3122
02:14:11,189 --> 02:14:09,040
told me and you were up and you guys

3123
02:14:13,350 --> 02:14:11,199
were up and you were over by the door

3124
02:14:14,709 --> 02:14:13,360
and i i was going what's going on you

3125
02:14:16,390 --> 02:14:14,719
know because you really don't know

3126
02:14:18,229 --> 02:14:16,400
what's going on in those headphones you

3127
02:14:20,470 --> 02:14:18,239
can't hear anything

3128
02:14:21,430 --> 02:14:20,480
with your blindfolded so you can't see

3129
02:14:23,030 --> 02:14:21,440
anything

3130
02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:23,040
and you're just listening to the you

3131
02:14:30,390 --> 02:14:24,800
know

3132
02:14:31,030 --> 02:14:30,400
when i went back the cameras followed me

3133
02:14:33,830 --> 02:14:31,040
back there

3134
02:14:34,790 --> 02:14:33,840
and what was what was for me what was

3135
02:14:38,149 --> 02:14:34,800
really cool

3136
02:14:39,510 --> 02:14:38,159
is that patrick doyle uh jumped at the

3137
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:39,520
you know big patrick

3138
02:14:44,790 --> 02:14:43,040
doyle right with with uh he's obviously

3139
02:14:46,149 --> 02:14:44,800
lifted a lot of weights he's spent a lot

3140
02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:46,159
of time in the gym

3141
02:14:52,550 --> 02:14:49,679
uh he's a big guy right he's a good guy

3142
02:14:54,709 --> 02:14:52,560
he jumped and i just you know we jumped

3143
02:14:56,950 --> 02:14:54,719
at the same time and

3144
02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:56,960
when i went back the cameras followed me

3145
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:58,719
back there patrick stayed

3146
02:15:03,430 --> 02:15:01,520
i'm glad he stayed in position he was

3147
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:03,440
listening for me

3148
02:15:08,069 --> 02:15:05,199
to open and close those doors to see if

3149
02:15:10,310 --> 02:15:08,079
we could replicate what was going on

3150
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:10,320
the first door was not the the

3151
02:15:14,950 --> 02:15:11,840
gentleman's bathroom door

3152
02:15:17,109 --> 02:15:14,960
was not the sound that we heard the

3153
02:15:18,149 --> 02:15:17,119
it was the ladies bathroom door and when

3154
02:15:20,229 --> 02:15:18,159
i opened that

3155
02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:20,239
and closed it it that was it that was

3156
02:15:24,310 --> 02:15:21,280
the sound

3157
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:24,320
and patrick yelled from the lounge

3158
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:27,119
that's it that was the sound what what

3159
02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:28,800
goes through your mind when something

3160
02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:30,320
like that is happening that

3161
02:15:34,069 --> 02:15:33,199
that's not an evp right we're talking

3162
02:15:36,310 --> 02:15:34,079
about something

3163
02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:36,320
physical happening right well the first

3164
02:15:39,990 --> 02:15:37,840
thing that goes through them

3165
02:15:42,069 --> 02:15:40,000
through my mind is where are all the pas

3166
02:15:44,790 --> 02:15:42,079
right where is everybody

3167
02:15:45,189 --> 02:15:44,800
right uh and and the truth is that there

3168
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:45,199
was

3169
02:15:51,109 --> 02:15:48,480
our group

3170
02:15:54,149 --> 02:15:51,119
we were up there the the the escort that

3171
02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:54,159
was with us was commodore everett horde

3172
02:15:58,149 --> 02:15:56,880
uh he was with us and he was sitting

3173
02:16:00,709 --> 02:15:58,159
around by the entrance

3174
02:16:01,990 --> 02:16:00,719
which is you know the opposite up the

3175
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:02,000
stairs and

3176
02:16:05,350 --> 02:16:04,960
out the door right exactly um we did

3177
02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:05,360
have

3178
02:16:08,390 --> 02:16:07,840
uh one person with us that was off

3179
02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:08,400
camera

3180
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:11,440
and that was bernie k's wife uh regina

3181
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:11,920
my best

3182
02:16:18,550 --> 02:16:16,480
was sitting in a chair

3183
02:16:20,149 --> 02:16:18,560
by the bar right she was at the bar

3184
02:16:23,669 --> 02:16:20,159
right right exactly

3185
02:16:26,149 --> 02:16:23,679
she never moved um so yeah what

3186
02:16:28,069 --> 02:16:26,159
what makes that happen you know i i

3187
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:28,079
don't know what makes that happen i

3188
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:31,360
i you know you go to a a lot of

3189
02:16:35,429 --> 02:16:34,319
paranormal locations and there are doors

3190
02:16:38,549 --> 02:16:35,439
opening and closing

3191
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:38,559
is a common kind of report of paranormal

3192
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:39,679
activity

3193
02:16:44,389 --> 02:16:42,479
i've seen it on video like we had that

3194
02:16:47,830 --> 02:16:44,399
happen at the lizzie borden house

3195
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:47,840
so you know usually you i think you can

3196
02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:49,840
rationalize it or debunk it

3197
02:16:53,270 --> 02:16:52,479
um but you know this time we heard it we

3198
02:16:56,389 --> 02:16:53,280
didn't see it

3199
02:16:59,429 --> 02:16:56,399
so did it actually open and close

3200
02:17:01,830 --> 02:16:59,439
or were we hearing some kind of residual

3201
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:01,840
opening and closing even though the door

3202
02:17:06,150 --> 02:17:04,000
may be never moved

3203
02:17:07,429 --> 02:17:06,160
um have you had a chance to review the

3204
02:17:10,870 --> 02:17:07,439
footage of

3205
02:17:12,309 --> 02:17:10,880
uh that event no no you know what i was

3206
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:12,319
doing all day long

3207
02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:15,840
yeah i know right because i'm curious

3208
02:17:19,910 --> 02:17:18,160
um and for the audience let's it's

3209
02:17:22,230 --> 02:17:19,920
theatrics of the mind

3210
02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:22,240
i want you to understand that all of the

3211
02:17:26,469 --> 02:17:23,120
camera

3212
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:26,479
and and sound was uh

3213
02:17:33,429 --> 02:17:30,240
on the other side of the line but facing

3214
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:33,439
that wall where the door is

3215
02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:36,800
so maybe it captured that lady's door

3216
02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:40,559
moving um

3217
02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:42,960
was there a camera over there no but

3218
02:17:45,830 --> 02:17:44,639
they were facing that direction is what

3219
02:17:49,030 --> 02:17:45,840
i'm saying

3220
02:17:49,750 --> 02:17:49,040
oh oh okay yeah i have not i have not

3221
02:17:51,750 --> 02:17:49,760
had a chance

3222
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:51,760
it's a good point you know i i do want

3223
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:53,599
to look at it and we do have those

3224
02:17:57,270 --> 02:17:54,960
separate feeds

3225
02:17:58,950 --> 02:17:57,280
so um i i will be checking that out

3226
02:18:00,549 --> 02:17:58,960
because i do want to watch it and i'm

3227
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:00,559
very curious to hear

3228
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:02,479
your audio i know you still have to go

3229
02:18:06,469 --> 02:18:03,599
through it you know

3230
02:18:08,950 --> 02:18:06,479
i mean there's so so much going on and

3231
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:08,960
so much stuff to review it takes time to

3232
02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:10,639
sit down and review these things so you

3233
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:12,559
need a good block of time

3234
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:14,160
now that i'm we're wrapped with the

3235
02:18:16,790 --> 02:18:15,760
event i will have a little time to be

3236
02:18:19,669 --> 02:18:16,800
able to do that

3237
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:19,679
once i completely recuperate oh man

3238
02:18:23,910 --> 02:18:20,800
today

3239
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:23,920
was uh you know our teardown so we were

3240
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:25,120
all on the ship

3241
02:18:31,030 --> 02:18:28,880
from you know 11 a.m until

3242
02:18:33,910 --> 02:18:31,040
you're like i left the ship at like i

3243
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:33,920
don't know seven

3244
02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:36,960
6 30 6 30. i left the ship at 6 30

3245
02:18:43,429 --> 02:18:40,000
and um we were running

3246
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:43,439
up and down that ship the entire day and

3247
02:18:47,349 --> 02:18:46,319
uh as kathleen would say my dogs are

3248
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:47,359
barking

3249
02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:50,719
yeah they have to be they have to be the

3250
02:18:55,669 --> 02:18:52,240
ship is huge yeah

3251
02:18:58,709 --> 02:18:55,679
what this is the thing i came away

3252
02:19:01,830 --> 02:18:58,719
uh i was excited going in but

3253
02:19:02,150 --> 02:19:01,840
i you know what you expect the worst and

3254
02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:02,160
then

3255
02:19:06,150 --> 02:19:05,040
you know just take what happens um maybe

3256
02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:06,160
nothing would happen

3257
02:19:09,509 --> 02:19:08,080
and and that's fine and i get to go

3258
02:19:10,309 --> 02:19:09,519
through the experience that's not the

3259
02:19:12,950 --> 02:19:10,319
case

3260
02:19:15,750 --> 02:19:12,960
i had two extraordinary profound

3261
02:19:17,750 --> 02:19:15,760
experiences on that ship with the voice

3262
02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:17,760
in the churchill suite and then that

3263
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:19,439
door slam

3264
02:19:22,709 --> 02:19:21,760
that happened upstairs and i i left

3265
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:22,719
there

3266
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:25,840
uh pretty freaked out happy at the same

3267
02:19:28,549 --> 02:19:26,639
time

3268
02:19:29,910 --> 02:19:28,559
right that i got i'm now you know what

3269
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:29,920
i'm i'm i'm

3270
02:19:32,950 --> 02:19:32,479
i'm a ghost hunter right i'm a ghost

3271
02:19:35,589 --> 02:19:32,960
awesome

3272
02:19:36,629 --> 02:19:35,599
but what makes that ship so bleep and

3273
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:36,639
haunted

3274
02:19:39,990 --> 02:19:38,160
i don't i don't know and you know what's

3275
02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:40,000
crazy is that you know

3276
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:41,920
most people who are part of the dark

3277
02:19:44,309 --> 02:19:43,200
zone and they're they're fans of the

3278
02:19:46,629 --> 02:19:44,319
dark zone

3279
02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:46,639
they know i've said several times that i

3280
02:19:49,590 --> 02:19:48,479
never have experiences i don't i don't

3281
02:19:52,389 --> 02:19:49,600
feel anything

3282
02:19:53,190 --> 02:19:52,399
and um and i did have an experience you

3283
02:19:55,750 --> 02:19:53,200
know and

3284
02:19:58,309 --> 02:19:55,760
so many people had experiences and

3285
02:20:02,150 --> 02:19:58,319
people that i trust and respect

3286
02:20:06,550 --> 02:20:02,160
um whose stories are not mine to tell

3287
02:20:08,070 --> 02:20:06,560
had experiences uh so

3288
02:20:09,910 --> 02:20:08,080
i i you know i don't know what to say

3289
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:09,920
about it i mean i i approach

3290
02:20:16,710 --> 02:20:13,120
this uh field as

3291
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:16,720
a skeptic um you know i've

3292
02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:19,920
i've been to so many locations and

3293
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:21,600
sure the paranormal investigators that

3294
02:20:25,590 --> 02:20:23,280
i'm with they get evidence

3295
02:20:27,429 --> 02:20:25,600
and you know but a lot of times i look

3296
02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:27,439
at the evidence and i think um

3297
02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:28,960
you know i feel like i can rationalize

3298
02:20:31,429 --> 02:20:30,319
that i feel like it could be this i feel

3299
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:31,439
like it could be that

3300
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:34,399
i mean i you know i i don't i you know i

3301
02:20:38,550 --> 02:20:36,160
i think that a lot of

3302
02:20:39,670 --> 02:20:38,560
evidence is open to interpretation but

3303
02:20:42,790 --> 02:20:39,680
when you actually

3304
02:20:44,630 --> 02:20:42,800
have an experience and you see something

3305
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:44,640
that makes you go

3306
02:20:47,670 --> 02:20:46,720
i can't explain that i don't know what

3307
02:20:49,429 --> 02:20:47,680
that was

3308
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:49,439
except for maybe i didn't really see

3309
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:51,040
what i think i saw

3310
02:20:56,070 --> 02:20:54,880
but you know usually you know what you

3311
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:56,080
saw

3312
02:21:03,830 --> 02:21:00,000
what else happened uh uh you know day

3313
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:03,840
uh friday uh my day there was a pretty

3314
02:21:10,550 --> 02:21:07,120
extraordinary uh what other events

3315
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:10,560
uh went down over those four days

3316
02:21:16,309 --> 02:21:13,920
so um so day one was we had some of the

3317
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:16,319
youtubers in there we had uh colin brown

3318
02:21:21,670 --> 02:21:19,600
oh my gosh uh from oh my gosh tv uh

3319
02:21:23,270 --> 02:21:21,680
and chris starr uh she was from the show

3320
02:21:25,510 --> 02:21:23,280
ghost loop but she's got her own

3321
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:25,520
uh youtube channel that she's she's

3322
02:21:29,429 --> 02:21:26,399
really uh

3323
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:29,439
starting to get popular on um they

3324
02:21:35,990 --> 02:21:33,760
spent time with aiden in room b340

3325
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:36,000
and and it was pretty active they did a

3326
02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:37,040
lot of things they

3327
02:21:40,469 --> 02:21:39,760
they loved using the estus session uh

3328
02:21:43,349 --> 02:21:40,479
estes

3329
02:21:45,590 --> 02:21:43,359
method um and if if the audience does

3330
02:21:47,590 --> 02:21:45,600
not know what the estus method is i mean

3331
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:47,600
you guys saw it a lot during the course

3332
02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:49,280
of the the weekend but

3333
02:21:52,469 --> 02:21:51,680
essentially what it does is it removes

3334
02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:52,479
like you know

3335
02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:55,439
kind of the the bias out of the equation

3336
02:21:58,710 --> 02:21:56,640
because

3337
02:21:59,910 --> 02:21:58,720
when you're asking investigators

3338
02:22:02,150 --> 02:21:59,920
questions

3339
02:22:03,910 --> 02:22:02,160
you're looking for the answer and so

3340
02:22:05,429 --> 02:22:03,920
when you hear the spirit box you can

3341
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:05,439
interpret a sound

3342
02:22:09,270 --> 02:22:07,600
that you hear to be the answer that you

3343
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:09,280
want a name or whatever

3344
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:12,479
and just you hear it a certain way

3345
02:22:17,110 --> 02:22:14,960
that actually happens a lot when you

3346
02:22:19,270 --> 02:22:17,120
listen to somebody's evp

3347
02:22:20,389 --> 02:22:19,280
and you don't hear anything it's like

3348
02:22:21,830 --> 02:22:20,399
you'll hear the evp

3349
02:22:22,950 --> 02:22:21,840
and you'll be like i don't know what

3350
02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:22,960
that's saying i don't know what it is

3351
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:24,640
and they'll say oh it's saying john

3352
02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:26,080
listen and then you hear john

3353
02:22:31,750 --> 02:22:29,200
right right so uh what

3354
02:22:32,630 --> 02:22:31,760
what carl pfeiffer connor randall and

3355
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:32,640
michelle tate

3356
02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:35,520
developed up at the stanley hotel was a

3357
02:22:39,510 --> 02:22:36,240
a

3358
02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:39,520
you know

3359
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:42,399
um cutting cutting the listener off

3360
02:22:45,830 --> 02:22:43,280
completely

3361
02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:45,840
you know that person is just listening

3362
02:22:49,670 --> 02:22:46,560
to the

3363
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:49,680
uh spirit box and nobody else can hear

3364
02:22:53,429 --> 02:22:50,399
it

3365
02:22:54,389 --> 02:22:53,439
and they are saying what they hear and

3366
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:54,399
then that

3367
02:22:57,990 --> 02:22:56,160
person listening to the spirit box

3368
02:22:58,870 --> 02:22:58,000
cannot hear the questions asked so the

3369
02:23:00,870 --> 02:22:58,880
idea is

3370
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:00,880
the investigators can ask questions and

3371
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:02,800
if they're you know if they get

3372
02:23:06,550 --> 02:23:05,600
answers conversationally then it's it

3373
02:23:08,389 --> 02:23:06,560
looks as if

3374
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:08,399
contact is being made that there are

3375
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:11,280
interactions happening

3376
02:23:14,630 --> 02:23:13,920
and there is no bias involved because

3377
02:23:18,230 --> 02:23:14,640
the

3378
02:23:19,349 --> 02:23:18,240
spirit box words are being interpreted

3379
02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:19,359
by the listener

3380
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:22,479
not by the person who asked the question

3381
02:23:26,150 --> 02:23:25,359
so um so the estas they did a lot of

3382
02:23:29,750 --> 02:23:26,160
esta session

3383
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:29,760
uh as this method in um b340 and all of

3384
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:31,600
the youtubers got involved

3385
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:35,359
and um there we had uh uh

3386
02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:38,560
jojo from kiss radio kiss fm and he was

3387
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:39,040
in there

3388
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:42,000
and he he was under the in the session

3389
02:23:45,429 --> 02:23:43,840
and he felt the bed move

3390
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:45,439
you know it's funny because you're in

3391
02:23:50,469 --> 02:23:47,040
there and you're cut off you don't

3392
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:50,479
it's like you know like uh a sense

3393
02:23:54,550 --> 02:23:51,760
deprivation chamber

3394
02:23:54,950 --> 02:23:54,560
basically and so you're you're cut off

3395
02:23:57,190 --> 02:23:54,960
from

3396
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:57,200
the outside world for the most part and

3397
02:24:00,469 --> 02:23:59,200
you can feel things around you you don't

3398
02:24:02,550 --> 02:24:00,479
know what it is

3399
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:02,560
so several times like chris starr felt

3400
02:24:08,230 --> 02:24:04,560
like somebody got up on the bed with her

3401
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:08,240
um and so did jojo

3402
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:10,960
and you know they they also use k2

3403
02:24:14,870 --> 02:24:12,160
meters at the same time

3404
02:24:16,309 --> 02:24:14,880
trying to get if they can get you know

3405
02:24:18,469 --> 02:24:16,319
double verification

3406
02:24:20,150 --> 02:24:18,479
of activity that's what they look for

3407
02:24:22,389 --> 02:24:20,160
and so those things were going off there

3408
02:24:23,030 --> 02:24:22,399
was a lot of activity going on in b340

3409
02:24:25,110 --> 02:24:23,040
in terms of

3410
02:24:26,389 --> 02:24:25,120
s this session that's this method plus

3411
02:24:27,830 --> 02:24:26,399
the k2

3412
02:24:29,990 --> 02:24:27,840
confirmations plus these little cap

3413
02:24:31,830 --> 02:24:30,000
balls that they use

3414
02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:31,840
wait wait you just reminded me before we

3415
02:24:36,790 --> 02:24:33,280
get to the break we got to tell

3416
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:36,800
uh the cap ball was a big part of

3417
02:24:42,630 --> 02:24:39,920
our estes session that right

3418
02:24:43,270 --> 02:24:42,640
um okay so the cap balls are these

3419
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:43,280
little

3420
02:24:47,030 --> 02:24:46,560
uh clear plastic balls with lights in

3421
02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:47,040
them

3422
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:49,280
right there you know they're i'm i'm

3423
02:24:54,309 --> 02:24:50,800
holding up to the camera

3424
02:24:57,670 --> 02:24:54,319
i don't know inch and a half in diameter

3425
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:57,680
and so we start this sd session with

3426
02:25:02,550 --> 02:24:58,640
brianna's

3427
02:25:05,990 --> 02:25:02,560
uh uh better half what was his name

3428
02:25:06,630 --> 02:25:06,000
uh oh her husband oh man i wish i could

3429
02:25:09,990 --> 02:25:06,640
remember

3430
02:25:12,870 --> 02:25:10,000
i i'm so bad with you know what i names

3431
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:12,880
you if i looked in my uh files here i

3432
02:25:16,309 --> 02:25:13,760
could find it

3433
02:25:17,670 --> 02:25:16,319
okay but it's gonna take me a while oh

3434
02:25:22,950 --> 02:25:17,680
we should just both

3435
02:25:26,309 --> 02:25:22,960
be shot exactly on a daily basis man

3436
02:25:29,429 --> 02:25:26,319
i want to say brad but i could be wrong

3437
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:29,439
um i'm i'm looking here in

3438
02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:32,880
in my notes i don't have it okay

3439
02:25:40,230 --> 02:25:36,000
brianna adam adam adam adam adam

3440
02:25:41,030 --> 02:25:40,240
thank you okay so adam is doing the sd

3441
02:25:44,230 --> 02:25:41,040
session the

3442
02:25:47,429 --> 02:25:44,240
the cat ball is sitting

3443
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:47,439
on a pillow in the booth

3444
02:25:51,510 --> 02:25:49,280
it's sitting there by itself where it

3445
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:51,520
had been for the entire

3446
02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:54,800
investigation it's sitting up there and

3447
02:26:03,030 --> 02:25:58,080
um he starts his estee session

3448
02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:03,040
and the first thing that he says

3449
02:26:10,550 --> 02:26:06,399
is ball and the ball

3450
02:26:15,190 --> 02:26:10,560
falls off the uh the booth

3451
02:26:18,070 --> 02:26:15,200
cushion onto the floor now

3452
02:26:21,270 --> 02:26:18,080
i i i was sitting behind adam right i am

3453
02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:21,280
facing the booth i then see the ball on

3454
02:26:26,150 --> 02:26:22,960
the floor i'm kind of reacting

3455
02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:26,160
to why why would he say ball right right

3456
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:28,720
and it was before anybody asked any

3457
02:26:34,469 --> 02:26:30,160
questions

3458
02:26:34,870 --> 02:26:34,479
right he wasn't he wasn't asked right it

3459
02:26:36,710 --> 02:26:34,880
just

3460
02:26:38,150 --> 02:26:36,720
came out and we were all kind of shocked

3461
02:26:39,910 --> 02:26:38,160
to that and

3462
02:26:41,429 --> 02:26:39,920
and the freaking cap ball falls on the

3463
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:41,439
floor right right

3464
02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:43,760
and nobody's in the booth it's sitting

3465
02:26:47,510 --> 02:26:45,280
there by itself

3466
02:26:49,349 --> 02:26:47,520
now now because the booth was left open

3467
02:26:52,389 --> 02:26:49,359
for the jet for the gent

3468
02:26:54,389 --> 02:26:52,399
now let's uh we left the booth

3469
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:54,399
empty we didn't put anybody in the booth

3470
02:26:58,550 --> 02:26:56,080
everybody was just sitting there with

3471
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:58,560
the k2 meter or the tri-meter sitting in

3472
02:27:03,110 --> 02:26:59,520
front of it

3473
02:27:05,429 --> 02:27:03,120
um and uh the the estes

3474
02:27:07,349 --> 02:27:05,439
stuff and and the headphones for the

3475
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:07,359
session adam is sitting on the other

3476
02:27:10,469 --> 02:27:09,280
side of the table and i am sitting

3477
02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:10,479
directly

3478
02:27:17,110 --> 02:27:14,080
behind adam facing the booth right and

3479
02:27:18,230 --> 02:27:17,120
now that's the point where i have to ask

3480
02:27:22,230 --> 02:27:18,240
you that's a

3481
02:27:23,910 --> 02:27:22,240
physical adam's got blindfolds on

3482
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:23,920
right right he's got the headphones on

3483
02:27:26,550 --> 02:27:25,520
he doesn't know anything he's sitting in

3484
02:27:29,270 --> 02:27:26,560
the chair

3485
02:27:29,990 --> 02:27:29,280
and after 30 seconds first thing out of

3486
02:27:32,309 --> 02:27:30,000
his mouth

3487
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:32,319
is ball and the cap all falls on the

3488
02:27:35,429 --> 02:27:33,280
floor

3489
02:27:36,469 --> 02:27:35,439
now yeah well it was pretty amazing yeah

3490
02:27:39,910 --> 02:27:36,479
what do we what

3491
02:27:42,309 --> 02:27:39,920
what do you do with that jay i mean

3492
02:27:43,670 --> 02:27:42,319
is that just coincidence and we just

3493
02:27:46,790 --> 02:27:43,680
blow that off

3494
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:46,800
or is that something pretty amazing

3495
02:27:49,830 --> 02:27:49,200
well i don't know you know because you

3496
02:27:55,750 --> 02:27:49,840
know

3497
02:27:57,990 --> 02:27:55,760
maybe twice it can be coincidence but

3498
02:27:59,750 --> 02:27:58,000
when things are happening repeatedly

3499
02:28:01,349 --> 02:27:59,760
there's something going on there i mean

3500
02:28:03,190 --> 02:28:01,359
you know when you go there there there

3501
02:28:04,950 --> 02:28:03,200
is there is a feeling there's a weird

3502
02:28:07,190 --> 02:28:04,960
energy in that place and it's

3503
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:07,200
in it's in part we do it to ourselves

3504
02:28:10,790 --> 02:28:09,040
because of the history of the ship right

3505
02:28:12,389 --> 02:28:10,800
you feel kind of like you're going back

3506
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:12,399
in time a little bit

3507
02:28:16,070 --> 02:28:15,600
um but yeah there there is definitely a

3508
02:28:18,309 --> 02:28:16,080
real

3509
02:28:20,309 --> 02:28:18,319
interesting energy there now those cap

3510
02:28:22,630 --> 02:28:20,319
balls are

3511
02:28:24,070 --> 02:28:22,640
you know they're designed to be to light

3512
02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:24,080
up when they're cat toys they're

3513
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:25,120
designed to light up when

3514
02:28:31,110 --> 02:28:28,319
cats tap them you know and so

3515
02:28:33,110 --> 02:28:31,120
they are touch activated or motion

3516
02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:33,120
activated and

3517
02:28:40,309 --> 02:28:37,120
nobody touched it it was it was just

3518
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:40,319
sitting there and that's how they

3519
02:28:43,990 --> 02:28:42,880
they have a lot of uh rebecca or becca

3520
02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:44,000
and um

3521
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:46,560
aiden have a lot of uh positive

3522
02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:47,760
interactions

3523
02:28:53,590 --> 02:28:50,960
with using those devices and you you

3524
02:28:57,110 --> 02:28:53,600
know in conjunction with k2 and estes

3525
02:28:58,790 --> 02:28:57,120
and i just i just think that

3526
02:29:00,230 --> 02:28:58,800
i just think that yeah there was no

3527
02:29:01,670 --> 02:29:00,240
breeze there there was nothing that

3528
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:01,680
could move it it

3529
02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:04,160
you know something happened i what is

3530
02:29:07,670 --> 02:29:05,680
the nature of that thing that happened

3531
02:29:09,190 --> 02:29:07,680
i don't know you know i don't know i

3532
02:29:12,389 --> 02:29:09,200
want to know but i don't know

3533
02:29:14,790 --> 02:29:12,399
there are so many strange things uh

3534
02:29:16,469 --> 02:29:14,800
we could sit here all night if we picked

3535
02:29:19,750 --> 02:29:16,479
each minute apart

3536
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:19,760
it seemed like there was something uh

3537
02:29:25,030 --> 02:29:22,960
going on uh throughout the day

3538
02:29:27,190 --> 02:29:25,040
it was just it was a very strange

3539
02:29:27,830 --> 02:29:27,200
experience i wanted to ask you about a

3540
02:29:31,110 --> 02:29:27,840
moment

3541
02:29:34,550 --> 02:29:31,120
where you made me laugh um you know i

3542
02:29:35,590 --> 02:29:34,560
before i had decided to uh try estes for

3543
02:29:37,349 --> 02:29:35,600
the first time

3544
02:29:38,950 --> 02:29:37,359
i was i was just in the room and i was

3545
02:29:42,790 --> 02:29:38,960
just kind of you know

3546
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:42,800
directing um the not directing you guys

3547
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:44,240
because it was all reality you guys were

3548
02:29:47,030 --> 02:29:45,120
doing what you do

3549
02:29:49,030 --> 02:29:47,040
but you know the cameras basically

3550
02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:49,040
making sure that those guys were

3551
02:29:52,710 --> 02:29:51,040
were getting the shots that needed to be

3552
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:52,720
gotten and so forth

3553
02:29:58,150 --> 02:29:56,000
um but uh you

3554
02:29:59,750 --> 02:29:58,160
heard i don't remember if it was uh

3555
02:30:03,030 --> 02:29:59,760
brianna or if it was

3556
02:30:03,990 --> 02:30:03,040
uh bernie but somebody was doing an

3557
02:30:05,750 --> 02:30:04,000
estus and you heard

3558
02:30:07,590 --> 02:30:05,760
something right away and i think it was

3559
02:30:08,710 --> 02:30:07,600
because it was conversational i can't

3560
02:30:10,870 --> 02:30:08,720
remember what it was

3561
02:30:12,389 --> 02:30:10,880
but you just threw your hands up in the

3562
02:30:18,870 --> 02:30:12,399
air and you're like

3563
02:30:21,990 --> 02:30:18,880
all right this place is haunted i'm done

3564
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:22,000
that's right i don't real okay yes that

3565
02:30:26,309 --> 02:30:23,439
did happen

3566
02:30:27,750 --> 02:30:26,319
and this is the thing uh and the reason

3567
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:27,760
why i reacted

3568
02:30:32,710 --> 02:30:30,720
it was the sc sessions are all very

3569
02:30:35,030 --> 02:30:32,720
interesting and they're a lot of fun

3570
02:30:37,030 --> 02:30:35,040
okay that that's for sure and there's a

3571
02:30:40,150 --> 02:30:37,040
lot of tension there because you just

3572
02:30:40,950 --> 02:30:40,160
don't know if you're gonna have a direct

3573
02:30:43,270 --> 02:30:40,960
answer

3574
02:30:46,070 --> 02:30:43,280
right i mean something direct and it

3575
02:30:49,030 --> 02:30:46,080
happened i think it was

3576
02:30:50,630 --> 02:30:49,040
with bernie i think you're right about

3577
02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:50,640
that but anyway

3578
02:30:55,750 --> 02:30:53,760
uh i asked a question and he

3579
02:30:57,030 --> 02:30:55,760
answered and i was feeling a little bit

3580
02:31:00,230 --> 02:30:57,040
funky

3581
02:31:01,429 --> 02:31:00,240
and then becca asked him another

3582
02:31:04,309 --> 02:31:01,439
question

3583
02:31:05,110 --> 02:31:04,319
and and it was it was two or three

3584
02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:05,120
responses

3585
02:31:09,110 --> 02:31:07,200
in a row where this conversation was

3586
02:31:12,309 --> 02:31:09,120
happening back and forth

3587
02:31:13,750 --> 02:31:12,319
and that third pop from bernie freaked

3588
02:31:17,030 --> 02:31:13,760
me out

3589
02:31:17,590 --> 02:31:17,040
i mean it was just like whoa yes and i

3590
02:31:20,230 --> 02:31:17,600
did i

3591
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,240
stood up i forgot what what do you mean

3592
02:31:25,510 --> 02:31:22,399
what do you mean you were feeling funky

3593
02:31:27,910 --> 02:31:25,520
i i could feel that it was real

3594
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:27,920
i could no i could i could it was just

3595
02:31:30,950 --> 02:31:29,200
like two people were having a

3596
02:31:32,950 --> 02:31:30,960
conversation in front of me

3597
02:31:33,990 --> 02:31:32,960
and it wasn't disconnected it wasn't

3598
02:31:36,230 --> 02:31:34,000
disjointed

3599
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:36,240
it was it was actually real i need to

3600
02:31:39,670 --> 02:31:38,000
take a break jay you stay right there

3601
02:31:41,910 --> 02:31:39,680
i'm gonna take a commercial break

3602
02:31:43,110 --> 02:31:41,920
when we come back we're gonna talk about

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your sd

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session all right and i got to say

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i was there for it and you know what no

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matter what 10 years from now jay

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let's take a quick break this is fade to

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one of the principals at the dark zone

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jay bloomke

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that night yes producer and host of the

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how do i put this in my he was one of

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[Music]

3699
02:36:10,309 --> 02:36:08,399
welcome back faded black i am your host

3700
02:36:12,630 --> 02:36:10,319
jimmy church tonight is our queen mary

3701
02:36:15,750 --> 02:36:12,640
ghost hunt recap special

3702
02:36:16,469 --> 02:36:15,760
the dark zone four days on the queen

3703
02:36:18,630 --> 02:36:16,479
mary

3704
02:36:20,389 --> 02:36:18,640
uh some of the best investigators in the

3705
02:36:22,710 --> 02:36:20,399
country were there

3706
02:36:23,590 --> 02:36:22,720
uh i i had the privilege to be there

3707
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:23,600
friday night

3708
02:36:27,190 --> 02:36:25,600
and jay bloomke again one of the

3709
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:27,200
principals at the dark zone

3710
02:36:33,830 --> 02:36:31,200
but also now uh the host

3711
02:36:34,630 --> 02:36:33,840
the host and and and he you did a great

3712
02:36:37,670 --> 02:36:34,640
job but

3713
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:37,680
this is this is the thing you

3714
02:36:42,790 --> 02:36:40,399
uh you were thrown into the hot seat and

3715
02:36:44,950 --> 02:36:42,800
you were thrown into the hot seat

3716
02:36:47,510 --> 02:36:44,960
uh for the estes method which we're

3717
02:36:49,190 --> 02:36:47,520
going to get to in just a second because

3718
02:36:51,590 --> 02:36:49,200
i wasn't going to do it and they're

3719
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:51,600
right yeah

3720
02:36:57,429 --> 02:36:54,880
i was in sensory overload at that point

3721
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:57,439
and i was i was having so much fun but

3722
02:37:02,469 --> 02:36:59,520
my brain was racing

3723
02:37:04,070 --> 02:37:02,479
and i honestly really i didn't want to

3724
02:37:06,710 --> 02:37:04,080
take it to the next level

3725
02:37:09,030 --> 02:37:06,720
and i know what i know what the st i've

3726
02:37:11,590 --> 02:37:09,040
had carl and connor on the show

3727
02:37:14,070 --> 02:37:11,600
um i've had them on coast to coast we've

3728
02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:14,080
talked a lot about the sds method and

3729
02:37:18,230 --> 02:37:16,640
and i've watched uh the sessions uh

3730
02:37:20,630 --> 02:37:18,240
quite a bit and

3731
02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:20,640
and i know that it's a commitment you

3732
02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:22,319
know it's a commitment

3733
02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:25,760
and i at that point uh i just

3734
02:37:29,830 --> 02:37:28,319
i you know i just don't think uh my

3735
02:37:32,630 --> 02:37:29,840
nerves could have handled it

3736
02:37:34,150 --> 02:37:32,640
you know i was in a perfect i was in a

3737
02:37:37,190 --> 02:37:34,160
perfect place at that point

3738
02:37:39,830 --> 02:37:37,200
you know what i mean and yeah uh but

3739
02:37:40,309 --> 02:37:39,840
because i declined everybody turned and

3740
02:37:43,750 --> 02:37:40,319
said

3741
02:37:47,110 --> 02:37:43,760
jay and and and you decided

3742
02:37:48,950 --> 02:37:47,120
yeah okay all right so uh

3743
02:37:50,469 --> 02:37:48,960
for everybody out there it's called the

3744
02:37:53,190 --> 02:37:50,479
estes method

3745
02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:53,200
because of estes park colorado where the

3746
02:37:57,030 --> 02:37:56,000
stanley hotel is located and the stanley

3747
02:38:04,309 --> 02:37:57,040
hotel

3748
02:38:07,510 --> 02:38:04,319
used uh for stephen king's book

3749
02:38:09,270 --> 02:38:07,520
the shining um uh

3750
02:38:10,710 --> 02:38:09,280
for for the movie the shining it's not

3751
02:38:12,070 --> 02:38:10,720
the same hotel in the shining that was

3752
02:38:15,349 --> 02:38:12,080
built on a set

3753
02:38:16,070 --> 02:38:15,359
but it was the the background stephen

3754
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:16,080
king

3755
02:38:22,710 --> 02:38:20,800
the stanley hotel so that's where

3756
02:38:25,030 --> 02:38:22,720
that's where the sds method was

3757
02:38:28,389 --> 02:38:25,040
developed and that's why it's called the

3758
02:38:30,950 --> 02:38:28,399
estes method now um

3759
02:38:33,190 --> 02:38:30,960
this is the thing and i set up bernie k

3760
02:38:37,030 --> 02:38:33,200
the best that i could for this

3761
02:38:40,309 --> 02:38:37,040
um is that you need to

3762
02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:40,319
you need to just clear your mind click

3763
02:38:45,750 --> 02:38:42,160
get the clutter out

3764
02:38:48,469 --> 02:38:45,760
and and just go into that zone

3765
02:38:50,630 --> 02:38:48,479
and and let's see what happens well

3766
02:38:52,469 --> 02:38:50,640
that's the advice i gave to bernie

3767
02:38:54,070 --> 02:38:52,479
and and i think you were there when i

3768
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:54,080
gave that advice

3769
02:38:59,110 --> 02:38:57,280
because i wanted bernie to to be okay

3770
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:59,120
with it because he saw the first session

3771
02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:00,080
go down

3772
02:39:05,349 --> 02:39:03,359
and he literally said to me uh it may

3773
02:39:08,070 --> 02:39:05,359
even be on camera he goes church

3774
02:39:08,950 --> 02:39:08,080
seriously should i should i you know and

3775
02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:08,960
i was like

3776
02:39:13,750 --> 02:39:12,479
you're gonna be fine but you weren't you

3777
02:39:18,070 --> 02:39:13,760
were next up

3778
02:39:21,110 --> 02:39:18,080
um when you start to go through

3779
02:39:22,870 --> 02:39:21,120
uh the the isolation

3780
02:39:24,469 --> 02:39:22,880
because now you've got you've got

3781
02:39:26,790 --> 02:39:24,479
blindfolds on

3782
02:39:28,150 --> 02:39:26,800
you've got headphones on that are

3783
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:28,160
blocked now you have

3784
02:39:33,349 --> 02:39:31,439
a complete uh disconnect from the

3785
02:39:36,870 --> 02:39:33,359
environment around you

3786
02:39:39,349 --> 02:39:36,880
jay what was going what do you see

3787
02:39:40,230 --> 02:39:39,359
in your mind's eye what what is it that

3788
02:39:42,389 --> 02:39:40,240
you're

3789
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:42,399
seeing well did you ever see the movie

3790
02:39:45,910 --> 02:39:43,600
altered states

3791
02:39:47,750 --> 02:39:45,920
william hurt absolutely so that whole

3792
02:39:49,670 --> 02:39:47,760
sensory deprivation thing you know the

3793
02:39:51,349 --> 02:39:49,680
tank i've always wanted to do that but

3794
02:39:51,670 --> 02:39:51,359
i've never had the opportunity to do

3795
02:39:54,469 --> 02:39:51,680
that

3796
02:39:55,190 --> 02:39:54,479
so this is kind of like um i would

3797
02:39:57,510 --> 02:39:55,200
imagine

3798
02:39:58,309 --> 02:39:57,520
something similar because you are cut

3799
02:39:59,590 --> 02:39:58,319
off from

3800
02:40:02,150 --> 02:39:59,600
what's going on around you and you've

3801
02:40:03,270 --> 02:40:02,160
got this this thing that becomes your

3802
02:40:05,349 --> 02:40:03,280
new reality

3803
02:40:07,590 --> 02:40:05,359
and it's just kind of just happening in

3804
02:40:11,030 --> 02:40:07,600
your ears and

3805
02:40:11,590 --> 02:40:11,040
um you you can there are two things

3806
02:40:15,110 --> 02:40:11,600
happened

3807
02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:15,120
to me when i was uh with the headphones

3808
02:40:19,429 --> 02:40:16,000
on when i was in

3809
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:19,439
in the session one is i did start zoning

3810
02:40:23,750 --> 02:40:21,760
out and kind of feeling a little floaty

3811
02:40:25,510 --> 02:40:23,760
and and kind of feeling like i was

3812
02:40:28,550 --> 02:40:25,520
opening up and

3813
02:40:29,190 --> 02:40:28,560
you know um in your mind's eye you kind

3814
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:29,200
of see

3815
02:40:34,230 --> 02:40:32,160
outer space a little bit you know star

3816
02:40:37,670 --> 02:40:34,240
fields and things like that

3817
02:40:41,110 --> 02:40:37,680
and um but then also

3818
02:40:43,670 --> 02:40:41,120
for me um i i kept pulling out of it

3819
02:40:45,269 --> 02:40:43,680
and because i was focusing so much on

3820
02:40:48,389 --> 02:40:45,279
wanting to hear the words

3821
02:40:49,910 --> 02:40:48,399
right so there's a lot of focus

3822
02:40:52,870 --> 02:40:49,920
on trying to hear the words because you

3823
02:40:55,590 --> 02:40:52,880
want to say anything that you might hear

3824
02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:55,600
um and then there's also you know

3825
02:40:59,910 --> 02:40:57,200
periods where you can kind of

3826
02:41:02,230 --> 02:40:59,920
go a little deeper you know and actually

3827
02:41:04,790 --> 02:41:02,240
detach a little bit um

3828
02:41:06,950 --> 02:41:04,800
but i i wanted to kind of live in that

3829
02:41:08,389 --> 02:41:06,960
space you know that detachment and and

3830
02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:08,399
see what that felt like but i i was

3831
02:41:11,030 --> 02:41:09,200
never fully

3832
02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:11,040
ever there a little bit here and there

3833
02:41:13,990 --> 02:41:12,880
but i would come out of it because i was

3834
02:41:17,429 --> 02:41:14,000
really trying to

3835
02:41:19,590 --> 02:41:17,439
you know focus on the words um so

3836
02:41:21,750 --> 02:41:19,600
that that was interesting but i i gotta

3837
02:41:22,630 --> 02:41:21,760
say you know the the thing that startled

3838
02:41:24,550 --> 02:41:22,640
me was

3839
02:41:26,469 --> 02:41:24,560
and it also was one of the things that

3840
02:41:28,790 --> 02:41:26,479
pulled me out of it a little bit was

3841
02:41:30,230 --> 02:41:28,800
i kept feeling something rubbing on my

3842
02:41:33,910 --> 02:41:30,240
leg right you know

3843
02:41:34,469 --> 02:41:33,920
on on my on my uh like the top of my

3844
02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:34,479
thigh

3845
02:41:38,950 --> 02:41:36,800
and i was just you know it was almost

3846
02:41:41,510 --> 02:41:38,960
like my wallet was being pulled or

3847
02:41:43,670 --> 02:41:41,520
pushed or slid down my leg a little bit

3848
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:43,680
and um and then i realized that my

3849
02:41:47,590 --> 02:41:45,760
wallet was actually in my other

3850
02:41:49,830 --> 02:41:47,600
pocket on the left side not on the right

3851
02:41:51,750 --> 02:41:49,840
side so

3852
02:41:53,830 --> 02:41:51,760
i have no explanation for that i thought

3853
02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:53,840
that maybe you know becca was touching

3854
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:55,200
me trying to get me to

3855
02:42:00,870 --> 02:41:58,479
to come out of it but you know uh

3856
02:42:02,150 --> 02:42:00,880
it was well and and as you've probably

3857
02:42:06,150 --> 02:42:02,160
found out after the

3858
02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:06,160
i was the one sitting there next to you

3859
02:42:10,070 --> 02:42:09,120
um uh being here i didn't know that

3860
02:42:11,429 --> 02:42:10,080
right now

3861
02:42:13,190 --> 02:42:11,439
and i didn't even know patrick was

3862
02:42:14,469 --> 02:42:13,200
directly in front of me i had no idea i

3863
02:42:17,590 --> 02:42:14,479
thought patrick was behind me

3864
02:42:21,269 --> 02:42:17,600
right right and it was me right and so

3865
02:42:23,910 --> 02:42:21,279
this is uh that actually happened twice

3866
02:42:24,790 --> 02:42:23,920
it didn't happen once it happened twice

3867
02:42:29,910 --> 02:42:24,800
and

3868
02:42:33,510 --> 02:42:29,920
one thing

3869
02:42:35,269 --> 02:42:33,520
i almost touched you the second or third

3870
02:42:37,750 --> 02:42:35,279
time just to mess with you

3871
02:42:39,590 --> 02:42:37,760
i was gonna do it i was gonna do it i

3872
02:42:39,990 --> 02:42:39,600
thought no that's not cool not on camera

3873
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:40,000
he would

3874
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:42,640
like lose his mind but i thought the

3875
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:44,960
opportunity is here

3876
02:42:49,030 --> 02:42:48,000
uh you know for the moment but now i i i

3877
02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:49,040
let it go

3878
02:42:54,790 --> 02:42:52,080
um i don't know if i could

3879
02:42:55,510 --> 02:42:54,800
restrain uh uh the next time around if

3880
02:42:59,030 --> 02:42:55,520
that happens

3881
02:43:00,790 --> 02:42:59,040
but this is the thing you freaked

3882
02:43:03,030 --> 02:43:00,800
all of this out when you did that

3883
02:43:04,630 --> 02:43:03,040
because we're we're having

3884
02:43:07,110 --> 02:43:04,640
at that point you were speaking in

3885
02:43:10,950 --> 02:43:07,120
spanish which was bizarre

3886
02:43:11,429 --> 02:43:10,960
right and and then as you were going

3887
02:43:13,110 --> 02:43:11,439
through the

3888
02:43:15,269 --> 02:43:13,120
and we were trying to figure out this

3889
02:43:17,349 --> 02:43:15,279
spanish connection and

3890
02:43:18,790 --> 02:43:17,359
and and we were doing that and then out

3891
02:43:22,389 --> 02:43:18,800
of the blue

3892
02:43:24,710 --> 02:43:22,399
you said somebody is touching my leg and

3893
02:43:25,830 --> 02:43:24,720
you kind of motioned your arm over in

3894
02:43:29,429 --> 02:43:25,840
that direction

3895
02:43:32,790 --> 02:43:29,439
i'm i'm the one there and i'm looking

3896
02:43:35,830 --> 02:43:32,800
and it kind of freaked out all of this

3897
02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:35,840
and i i thought that it was like your

3898
02:43:38,870 --> 02:43:36,479
thigh

3899
02:43:40,389 --> 02:43:38,880
like from your knee to your hip is where

3900
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:40,399
you were being touched

3901
02:43:45,269 --> 02:43:43,359
but after the session was over you said

3902
02:43:48,870 --> 02:43:45,279
it felt like somebody was

3903
02:43:52,230 --> 02:43:48,880
uh maybe pickpocketing you right yeah

3904
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:52,240
my front right pocket yeah wow and

3905
02:43:55,510 --> 02:43:54,160
it was the same sensation the second

3906
02:43:58,309 --> 02:43:55,520
time yeah

3907
02:43:59,110 --> 02:43:58,319
absolutely now you can watch the tape

3908
02:44:03,429 --> 02:43:59,120
everybody

3909
02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:03,439
it wasn't me i was the one sitting there

3910
02:44:07,349 --> 02:44:06,240
but i did not there was no shenanigans

3911
02:44:10,469 --> 02:44:07,359
going on

3912
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:10,479
um i was so tempted though i was so

3913
02:44:13,990 --> 02:44:12,960
tempted uh to do it but it would have

3914
02:44:15,269 --> 02:44:14,000
been uncool

3915
02:44:17,030 --> 02:44:15,279
you know because you're in the zone

3916
02:44:18,070 --> 02:44:17,040
you're in another place it would have

3917
02:44:21,990 --> 02:44:18,080
been funny actually

3918
02:44:25,349 --> 02:44:22,000
all right funny hi

3919
02:44:27,910 --> 02:44:25,359
but uh okay there's uh

3920
02:44:29,590 --> 02:44:27,920
another thing that i wanted to ask you

3921
02:44:33,429 --> 02:44:29,600
about the sd session

3922
02:44:34,309 --> 02:44:33,439
yours uh was different everybody's st

3923
02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:34,319
session

3924
02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:36,640
was a little bit different adam bernie k

3925
02:44:40,870 --> 02:44:37,680
and you

3926
02:44:43,990 --> 02:44:40,880
um yours seemed to

3927
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:44,000
um generally speaking overall

3928
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:47,200
was about families yeah it was

3929
02:44:53,110 --> 02:44:50,640
um about a message oh oh we can't forget

3930
02:44:56,070 --> 02:44:53,120
we can't forget about the documents

3931
02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:56,080
right oh yeah right okay so because that

3932
02:44:59,110 --> 02:44:57,920
came up with bernie too yeah that came

3933
02:45:00,710 --> 02:44:59,120
up a few times

3934
02:45:02,710 --> 02:45:00,720
and that would that was pretty

3935
02:45:04,469 --> 02:45:02,720
interesting okay let's circle back

3936
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:04,479
before we run out of time

3937
02:45:12,870 --> 02:45:08,240
um the yours was about

3938
02:45:14,790 --> 02:45:12,880
about families and there was a spanish

3939
02:45:16,070 --> 02:45:14,800
a latino element because you were

3940
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:16,080
speaking in spanish

3941
02:45:22,550 --> 02:45:19,760
at a couple of points did you did you

3942
02:45:24,389 --> 02:45:22,560
feel that did you know that you were

3943
02:45:26,230 --> 02:45:24,399
speaking in spanish did you know that

3944
02:45:27,750 --> 02:45:26,240
you were speaking about families

3945
02:45:29,590 --> 02:45:27,760
i identified the word and i just

3946
02:45:31,590 --> 02:45:29,600
repeated it i repeated what i heard i

3947
02:45:33,190 --> 02:45:31,600
had said bueno a couple times and there

3948
02:45:34,230 --> 02:45:33,200
was some another spanish word which i

3949
02:45:37,110 --> 02:45:34,240
didn't know what it meant

3950
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:37,120
that i just said um so i didn't know

3951
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:38,240
what that was

3952
02:45:41,269 --> 02:45:40,720
you know right right did you did you

3953
02:45:44,870 --> 02:45:41,279
have a

3954
02:45:46,710 --> 02:45:44,880
family vibe did you see families was

3955
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:46,720
there anything in your vision

3956
02:45:53,670 --> 02:45:50,800
no i did but you know yeah i i didn't

3957
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:53,680
there was a lot of you know i i did feel

3958
02:45:57,190 --> 02:45:55,520
like i was getting some kind of a weird

3959
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:57,200
family message and i don't know what it

3960
02:46:01,349 --> 02:45:58,399
was but

3961
02:46:02,150 --> 02:46:01,359
um you know i i didn't think about this

3962
02:46:04,070 --> 02:46:02,160
at the time

3963
02:46:05,349 --> 02:46:04,080
but since then i've thought about it a

3964
02:46:09,190 --> 02:46:05,359
lot and you know

3965
02:46:10,950 --> 02:46:09,200
my wife's mom passed away about

3966
02:46:12,950 --> 02:46:10,960
a little over a year and a half ago

3967
02:46:15,590 --> 02:46:12,960
maybe not quite two years

3968
02:46:16,150 --> 02:46:15,600
and um you know my wife is mexican and

3969
02:46:19,349 --> 02:46:16,160
and

3970
02:46:22,469 --> 02:46:19,359
her mom could speak spanish um

3971
02:46:23,750 --> 02:46:22,479
and so i i didn't know if i was you know

3972
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:23,760
getting some kind of a

3973
02:46:31,190 --> 02:46:29,830
could be yeah it could be very

3974
02:46:34,630 --> 02:46:31,200
interesting

3975
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:34,640
um now okay uh two other things that

3976
02:46:37,590 --> 02:46:36,319
went down in that sc session that blew

3977
02:46:40,630 --> 02:46:37,600
my mind

3978
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:40,640
um and there was many of them but

3979
02:46:47,510 --> 02:46:44,240
there was a very strong wave

3980
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:47,520
of male female

3981
02:46:53,750 --> 02:46:50,720
flirtation right it

3982
02:46:58,389 --> 02:46:53,760
that was going down between rebecca

3983
02:47:00,710 --> 02:46:58,399
brianna becca brianna and

3984
02:47:02,070 --> 02:47:00,720
somebody that was in that lounge that

3985
02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:02,080
liked to buy drinks

3986
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:04,720
and oh that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah

3987
02:47:09,030 --> 02:47:06,000
i remember what you're talking about

3988
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:09,040
yeah and that went through in a wave

3989
02:47:14,070 --> 02:47:12,399
right it was right it was very very very

3990
02:47:15,830 --> 02:47:14,080
strong and it's it's something that you

3991
02:47:18,309 --> 02:47:15,840
can't deny

3992
02:47:18,870 --> 02:47:18,319
right right it's not like that's you

3993
02:47:21,990 --> 02:47:18,880
know the

3994
02:47:24,710 --> 02:47:22,000
the the spirit that they look for in in

3995
02:47:25,349 --> 02:47:24,720
sir winston's is the gent and the gent

3996
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:25,359
is

3997
02:47:31,750 --> 02:47:29,359
a full-body apparition that

3998
02:47:33,429 --> 02:47:31,760
is sitting right next to you drinking a

3999
02:47:36,230 --> 02:47:33,439
martini or something

4000
02:47:38,230 --> 02:47:36,240
you know wearing a tuxedo a period

4001
02:47:41,429 --> 02:47:38,240
tuxedo from the 30s

4002
02:47:44,070 --> 02:47:41,439
and um you know and he he will not

4003
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:44,080
engage with you and well these are the

4004
02:47:46,389 --> 02:47:45,680
stories anyway he won't engage with you

4005
02:47:48,070 --> 02:47:46,399
and then when

4006
02:47:49,910 --> 02:47:48,080
if you look away and you look back he's

4007
02:47:53,110 --> 02:47:49,920
gone the glass is gone

4008
02:47:56,150 --> 02:47:53,120
everything's gone you know so

4009
02:47:58,870 --> 02:47:56,160
could the gent have been you know being

4010
02:48:01,590 --> 02:47:58,880
flirty with the ladies i don't know

4011
02:48:02,309 --> 02:48:01,600
it was it was it was there it was

4012
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:02,319
tangible

4013
02:48:07,110 --> 02:48:05,439
it was it was fascinating uh to see it

4014
02:48:11,630 --> 02:48:07,120
go into that flow

4015
02:48:14,830 --> 02:48:11,640
um and then there was uh i think

4016
02:48:18,790 --> 02:48:14,840
everybody that went through the sd

4017
02:48:21,269 --> 02:48:18,800
session talked about documents

4018
02:48:22,469 --> 02:48:21,279
yeah and the exchange and the exchange

4019
02:48:25,429 --> 02:48:22,479
of documents

4020
02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:25,439
i forget what i said but when i said

4021
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:27,279
whatever it was that i said

4022
02:48:32,389 --> 02:48:30,080
it reminded me of what i'd heard with

4023
02:48:35,590 --> 02:48:32,399
bernie and also i think with brianna

4024
02:48:36,710 --> 02:48:35,600
and adam adam yeah the first thing out

4025
02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:36,720
of uh bernie

4026
02:48:45,030 --> 02:48:40,960
uh when we started to uh talk to him

4027
02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:45,040
was radio and documents

4028
02:48:50,710 --> 02:48:48,160
yes right and and it went completely

4029
02:48:51,269 --> 02:48:50,720
into uh that direction and it never

4030
02:48:54,630 --> 02:48:51,279
really

4031
02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:54,640
left our investigation that night uh

4032
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:58,560
documents was brought up repeatedly yeah

4033
02:49:01,990 --> 02:48:59,760
yeah and i don't know what to make of

4034
02:49:04,230 --> 02:49:02,000
that you know um

4035
02:49:05,030 --> 02:49:04,240
is it you know we need to continue to

4036
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:05,040
research

4037
02:49:09,349 --> 02:49:08,240
you know the history there is it some

4038
02:49:12,950 --> 02:49:09,359
relation

4039
02:49:15,910 --> 02:49:12,960
to the story of the man in gray

4040
02:49:17,750 --> 02:49:15,920
who was arrested under suspicion of

4041
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:17,760
being a russian spy

4042
02:49:23,110 --> 02:49:20,880
from the ship you know i don't know

4043
02:49:25,269 --> 02:49:23,120
yeah i didn't know about that but that

4044
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:25,279
was that was amazing that was amazing

4045
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:26,479
let me uh

4046
02:49:29,510 --> 02:49:28,720
i think the question on everybody's mind

4047
02:49:32,790 --> 02:49:29,520
is

4048
02:49:35,750 --> 02:49:32,800
right

4049
02:49:36,389 --> 02:49:35,760
having the ship not only the ship the

4050
02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:36,399
entire

4051
02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:40,240
port right everything was ours

4052
02:49:44,070 --> 02:49:42,399
yeah right there was nobody there there

4053
02:49:47,110 --> 02:49:44,080
was no tourists there was no

4054
02:49:47,590 --> 02:49:47,120
lookie-loos the only people that i met

4055
02:49:49,429 --> 02:49:47,600
there

4056
02:49:51,349 --> 02:49:49,439
was the long beach police department

4057
02:49:53,269 --> 02:49:51,359
when i took a break and i posted those

4058
02:49:55,269 --> 02:49:53,279
pictures i don't know if you saw it

4059
02:49:57,030 --> 02:49:55,279
but i went out and and hung out with

4060
02:50:00,469 --> 02:49:57,040
them for a minute other than that

4061
02:50:02,469 --> 02:50:00,479
and the security uh we

4062
02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:02,479
we were alone on that ship is it

4063
02:50:07,269 --> 02:50:03,760
possible

4064
02:50:10,389 --> 02:50:07,279
to to go back and get the ship again

4065
02:50:11,030 --> 02:50:10,399
uh to yourself no i think you said it

4066
02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:11,040
earlier i

4067
02:50:15,510 --> 02:50:13,120
yeah i don't think so i don't think

4068
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:15,520
that'll ever exist again

4069
02:50:21,750 --> 02:50:18,640
you know such a singular uh

4070
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:21,760
such a singular event which it's a

4071
02:50:24,469 --> 02:50:22,800
privilege

4072
02:50:27,349 --> 02:50:24,479
right but you also want to take

4073
02:50:30,309 --> 02:50:27,359
advantage of it while you were there

4074
02:50:31,750 --> 02:50:30,319
yeah well you look you know when we came

4075
02:50:33,590 --> 02:50:31,760
off of um

4076
02:50:36,710 --> 02:50:33,600
the conjuring event and that's that's

4077
02:50:39,510 --> 02:50:36,720
the first time that we uh you know had

4078
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:39,520
aiden sinclair part of one of our events

4079
02:50:42,469 --> 02:50:40,720
um

4080
02:50:45,190 --> 02:50:42,479
i asked him about you know his

4081
02:50:47,830 --> 02:50:45,200
relationships with the queen mary

4082
02:50:49,750 --> 02:50:47,840
he also has a residency that he does a

4083
02:50:51,269 --> 02:50:49,760
show that he does at the winchester

4084
02:50:54,790 --> 02:50:51,279
mystery house and at the

4085
02:50:56,550 --> 02:50:54,800
at the uh stanley hotel and

4086
02:50:58,389 --> 02:50:56,560
you know i thought wow you know maybe we

4087
02:50:59,110 --> 02:50:58,399
can get into one of those places and you

4088
02:51:01,830 --> 02:50:59,120
would be

4089
02:51:02,469 --> 02:51:01,840
the ideal you know host with us on that

4090
02:51:04,870 --> 02:51:02,479
one

4091
02:51:05,830 --> 02:51:04,880
and he thought that he could make the

4092
02:51:08,870 --> 02:51:05,840
queen mary work

4093
02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:08,880
because it is down for covid

4094
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:12,000
and it is such a unique situation and he

4095
02:51:16,469 --> 02:51:13,760
does have a theater there

4096
02:51:17,510 --> 02:51:16,479
and um you know he pulled some strings

4097
02:51:20,870 --> 02:51:17,520
and made it happen

4098
02:51:23,590 --> 02:51:20,880
and we were so happy that he did because

4099
02:51:24,469 --> 02:51:23,600
it was i think it was our best event so

4100
02:51:26,710 --> 02:51:24,479
far

4101
02:51:28,469 --> 02:51:26,720
and um you know based on the things that

4102
02:51:28,870 --> 02:51:28,479
we saw people saying in the chat rooms

4103
02:51:32,070 --> 02:51:28,880
they

4104
02:51:35,269 --> 02:51:32,080
was

4105
02:51:36,469 --> 02:51:35,279
from the beginning we're not going to

4106
02:51:37,750 --> 02:51:36,479
one-up ourselves we're going to tent up

4107
02:51:39,670 --> 02:51:37,760
ourselves and i think we did it

4108
02:51:41,429 --> 02:51:39,680
we ten upped ourselves i mean the the

4109
02:51:44,790 --> 02:51:41,439
quality of the production

4110
02:51:47,830 --> 02:51:44,800
the complexity of the uh setup

4111
02:51:49,429 --> 02:51:47,840
the um you know the just the fact that

4112
02:51:50,950 --> 02:51:49,439
we had all these little mini concerts

4113
02:51:54,150 --> 02:51:50,960
and everything because halloween

4114
02:51:54,870 --> 02:51:54,160
was canceled for us really and we didn't

4115
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:54,880
want to

4116
02:51:58,469 --> 02:51:56,240
we didn't want it to be canceled we

4117
02:51:59,429 --> 02:51:58,479
wanted to do halloween our way and bring

4118
02:52:01,349 --> 02:51:59,439
it to people

4119
02:52:02,630 --> 02:52:01,359
who potentially could not go out and do

4120
02:52:04,389 --> 02:52:02,640
anything and

4121
02:52:06,950 --> 02:52:04,399
uh and i think that came across i think

4122
02:52:09,429 --> 02:52:06,960
people really enjoyed the fact that

4123
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:09,439
you know we were giving them halloween

4124
02:52:13,190 --> 02:52:10,160
when

4125
02:52:14,870 --> 02:52:13,200
they couldn't have halloween well i i i

4126
02:52:18,550 --> 02:52:14,880
want to uh

4127
02:52:21,670 --> 02:52:18,560
give the proper uh credit uh aside from

4128
02:52:25,110 --> 02:52:21,680
all of the amazing crew that was there

4129
02:52:28,150 --> 02:52:25,120
but that's kathleen it is and i

4130
02:52:32,070 --> 02:52:28,160
uh i had a conversation with kathleen oh

4131
02:52:35,190 --> 02:52:32,080
it was last week i was i was driving and

4132
02:52:36,630 --> 02:52:35,200
and she had told me uh she said would

4133
02:52:39,510 --> 02:52:36,640
you just

4134
02:52:40,150 --> 02:52:39,520
you want to see what we do you want to

4135
02:52:43,830 --> 02:52:40,160
see what

4136
02:52:46,469 --> 02:52:43,840
i am capable of you will see it at

4137
02:52:48,150 --> 02:52:46,479
uh the queen mary okay all right well

4138
02:52:49,750 --> 02:52:48,160
this is hollywood we hear those things

4139
02:52:53,670 --> 02:52:49,760
all the time right

4140
02:52:55,269 --> 02:52:53,680
i had no idea when i walked into that

4141
02:52:58,389 --> 02:52:55,279
production room

4142
02:53:01,269 --> 02:52:58,399
and saw what i saw at that

4143
02:53:02,580 --> 02:53:01,279
level first off everything is judged on

4144
02:53:04,630 --> 02:53:02,590
catering

4145
02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:04,640
[Laughter]

4146
02:53:08,830 --> 02:53:07,120
well what did we have catering was

4147
02:53:12,070 --> 02:53:08,840
dialed well anyway

4148
02:53:15,590 --> 02:53:12,080
okay the catering was dialed but the

4149
02:53:16,070 --> 02:53:15,600
the the level of production the amount

4150
02:53:19,429 --> 02:53:16,080
of

4151
02:53:22,309 --> 02:53:19,439
cable and connections

4152
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:22,319
and computers and heart yeah right yeah

4153
02:53:27,349 --> 02:53:24,640
i would say at least um

4154
02:53:27,670 --> 02:53:27,359
there was three miles of cable just in

4155
02:53:34,790 --> 02:53:27,680
the

4156
02:53:38,630 --> 02:53:34,800
but uh kathleen and her crew

4157
02:53:41,510 --> 02:53:38,640
uh hats hats off right huge applause

4158
02:53:42,550 --> 02:53:41,520
yeah well let me tell you with the

4159
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:42,560
conjuring event

4160
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:44,960
um we really threw that thing together

4161
02:53:49,349 --> 02:53:46,800
in about four weeks

4162
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:49,359
and and i had a lot more um kind of

4163
02:53:51,910 --> 02:53:50,160
hands-on

4164
02:53:53,590 --> 02:53:51,920
with the planning and the scheduling of

4165
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:53,600
that one and and our

4166
02:53:57,910 --> 02:53:55,279
uh one of our other partners i'm scott

4167
02:54:01,590 --> 02:53:57,920
perlman he was very involved in that um

4168
02:54:03,830 --> 02:54:01,600
and renee barnett was you know essential

4169
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:03,840
in in the planning of of that one and we

4170
02:54:08,230 --> 02:54:05,200
we brought christine on

4171
02:54:10,230 --> 02:54:08,240
during that event and then since then

4172
02:54:12,950 --> 02:54:10,240
the events the production itself has

4173
02:54:16,550 --> 02:54:12,960
gotten the productions have gotten more

4174
02:54:18,309 --> 02:54:16,560
um kind of uh

4175
02:54:19,590 --> 02:54:18,319
cumbersome in terms of some of the

4176
02:54:20,230 --> 02:54:19,600
elements that we have to put together in

4177
02:54:23,110 --> 02:54:20,240
advance

4178
02:54:24,630 --> 02:54:23,120
and i'm i'm the only editor in the group

4179
02:54:25,830 --> 02:54:24,640
so i end up doing a lot of that and it

4180
02:54:28,309 --> 02:54:25,840
takes a lot of time and i

4181
02:54:29,349 --> 02:54:28,319
you know this time we didn't have uh we

4182
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:29,359
had uh

4183
02:54:33,910 --> 02:54:32,000
bill brock and stacy brown the last time

4184
02:54:35,349 --> 02:54:33,920
go out to the location they shot a bunch

4185
02:54:36,309 --> 02:54:35,359
of stuff they sent it to me i was able

4186
02:54:39,269 --> 02:54:36,319
to cut it together

4187
02:54:40,790 --> 02:54:39,279
but this time i shot everything myself

4188
02:54:44,230 --> 02:54:40,800
with with the help of

4189
02:54:46,790 --> 02:54:44,240
we had footage that aiden already had

4190
02:54:48,070 --> 02:54:46,800
in his promos that had been he produced

4191
02:54:51,110 --> 02:54:48,080
and was shot and

4192
02:54:53,349 --> 02:54:51,120
edited by carl pfeiffer previously so we

4193
02:54:56,790 --> 02:54:53,359
were able to have access to that footage

4194
02:55:00,309 --> 02:54:56,800
um but the post-production process on

4195
02:55:01,269 --> 02:55:00,319
this was so uh you know all-encompassing

4196
02:55:03,910 --> 02:55:01,279
that

4197
02:55:04,469 --> 02:55:03,920
i i really didn't have a whole lot of

4198
02:55:06,630 --> 02:55:04,479
you know

4199
02:55:07,750 --> 02:55:06,640
uh planning involvement in the planning

4200
02:55:10,150 --> 02:55:07,760
of this thing and

4201
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:10,160
i would say that kathleen between

4202
02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:11,279
kathleen

4203
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:13,120
uh renee and christine they put the

4204
02:55:17,830 --> 02:55:15,359
whole show together i mean christine did

4205
02:55:19,110 --> 02:55:17,840
most of the scheduling uh you know on

4206
02:55:20,790 --> 02:55:19,120
her own and then

4207
02:55:22,309 --> 02:55:20,800
you know while we were dealing with all

4208
02:55:23,830 --> 02:55:22,319
the other things a lot of stuff that

4209
02:55:26,710 --> 02:55:23,840
kathleen was dealing with for

4210
02:55:27,429 --> 02:55:26,720
for a great part of the pre-production

4211
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:27,439
was

4212
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:30,560
one

4213
02:55:33,830 --> 02:55:32,880
step away from people say this all the

4214
02:55:36,550 --> 02:55:33,840
time

4215
02:55:37,590 --> 02:55:36,560
but here i can say it with confidence i

4216
02:55:42,830 --> 02:55:37,600
was there

4217
02:55:43,990 --> 02:55:42,840
like one step away two degrees away from

4218
02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:44,000
nasa

4219
02:55:47,110 --> 02:55:46,399
exactly i'm not joking about that it

4220
02:55:48,950 --> 02:55:47,120
knows

4221
02:55:50,150 --> 02:55:48,960
it's intense and you know what's funny

4222
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:50,160
it's like

4223
02:55:53,590 --> 02:55:52,399
here's this woman who um you know has

4224
02:55:56,230 --> 02:55:53,600
been a you know

4225
02:55:57,349 --> 02:55:56,240
an executive in television for years she

4226
02:56:00,710 --> 02:55:57,359
started as

4227
02:56:02,469 --> 02:56:00,720
uh you know a chiron operator at cnn

4228
02:56:05,349 --> 02:56:02,479
right out of college you know

4229
02:56:06,389 --> 02:56:05,359
and uh she she has i've worked with her

4230
02:56:09,349 --> 02:56:06,399
for years she's been

4231
02:56:10,710 --> 02:56:09,359
my boss on many tv shows and now we're

4232
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:10,720
partners in this

4233
02:56:14,870 --> 02:56:13,120
and i'm always i'm always the guy who's

4234
02:56:16,550 --> 02:56:14,880
like all doing all the editing with all

4235
02:56:19,590 --> 02:56:16,560
the computers and all this stuff

4236
02:56:21,269 --> 02:56:19,600
and she knows so much more now about all

4237
02:56:22,790 --> 02:56:21,279
of this stuff because she's got had her

4238
02:56:24,150 --> 02:56:22,800
hands in it and she's living with it and

4239
02:56:25,269 --> 02:56:24,160
she's purchased the equipment and she

4240
02:56:27,269 --> 02:56:25,279
knows how to run it

4241
02:56:28,790 --> 02:56:27,279
i have no idea what she's doing in there

4242
02:56:32,230 --> 02:56:28,800
she just does it she

4243
02:56:35,269 --> 02:56:32,240
she and alex and peyton and matt they

4244
02:56:38,230 --> 02:56:35,279
they were the wizards you know

4245
02:56:39,990 --> 02:56:38,240
behind the console and they just put it

4246
02:56:41,830 --> 02:56:40,000
all together and she told me where to go

4247
02:56:44,230 --> 02:56:41,840
and what to do what to say and i just

4248
02:56:46,790 --> 02:56:44,240
did it and we have a show

4249
02:56:47,269 --> 02:56:46,800
you know it's uh uh pretty incredible

4250
02:56:50,630 --> 02:56:47,279
alec

4251
02:56:53,750 --> 02:56:50,640
is just that guy's off the hook man

4252
02:56:54,469 --> 02:56:53,760
i mean those okay they they look all of

4253
02:56:58,389 --> 02:56:54,479
them look

4254
02:56:58,950 --> 02:56:58,399
very very young and the brains on these

4255
02:57:01,750 --> 02:56:58,960
dudes

4256
02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:01,760
will blow your mind i know they're so

4257
02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:02,240
smart

4258
02:57:05,990 --> 02:57:05,200
so clever they problem solve they know

4259
02:57:08,389 --> 02:57:06,000
how to do things

4260
02:57:09,830 --> 02:57:08,399
i mean it was so funny peyton came up to

4261
02:57:12,070 --> 02:57:09,840
me one day and he said uh

4262
02:57:13,429 --> 02:57:12,080
and and this is a video editing platform

4263
02:57:14,309 --> 02:57:13,439
right i don't know if people know what

4264
02:57:16,550 --> 02:57:14,319
this is but

4265
02:57:17,990 --> 02:57:16,560
he said so i heard you edit on the avid

4266
02:57:20,830 --> 02:57:18,000
media composer

4267
02:57:23,429 --> 02:57:20,840
and i said yeah he goes wow that's so

4268
02:57:26,710 --> 02:57:23,439
old-school

4269
02:57:30,309 --> 02:57:26,720
oh that is hilarious well see

4270
02:57:32,309 --> 02:57:30,319
uh this is the thing um uh

4271
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:32,319
everybody can go and watch the video

4272
02:57:38,230 --> 02:57:34,800
that i posted up on my facebook page

4273
02:57:39,110 --> 02:57:38,240
of the control room and control area on

4274
02:57:41,110 --> 02:57:39,120
this ship

4275
02:57:42,790 --> 02:57:41,120
if that doesn't blow your mind you're

4276
02:57:45,830 --> 02:57:42,800
numb

4277
02:57:49,429 --> 02:57:45,840
but everybody there

4278
02:57:51,190 --> 02:57:49,439
manning their stations is is focused

4279
02:57:53,110 --> 02:57:51,200
there's not a lot of conversation that's

4280
02:57:54,070 --> 02:57:53,120
going on in there everybody knows their

4281
02:57:55,910 --> 02:57:54,080
gig

4282
02:57:58,309 --> 02:57:55,920
and and they they know what they're

4283
02:58:01,510 --> 02:57:58,319
doing and there's kathleen the director

4284
02:58:02,550 --> 02:58:01,520
right um uh shouting i like to be called

4285
02:58:04,309 --> 02:58:02,560
the director no

4286
02:58:06,070 --> 02:58:04,319
she says i'm the director but you know

4287
02:58:06,630 --> 02:58:06,080
why she says that because she doesn't

4288
02:58:08,790 --> 02:58:06,640
want the

4289
02:58:09,670 --> 02:58:08,800
camera guys coming and asking her okay

4290
02:58:12,710 --> 02:58:09,680
what's my shot

4291
02:58:13,590 --> 02:58:12,720
right right i i stood in there a couple

4292
02:58:15,670 --> 02:58:13,600
of times i

4293
02:58:17,510 --> 02:58:15,680
kind of snuck in and i just felt like i

4294
02:58:19,030 --> 02:58:17,520
was interrupting and stuff because i've

4295
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:19,040
got a loud voice and i'm pretty

4296
02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:20,240
obnoxious

4297
02:58:23,750 --> 02:58:22,240
but i'm watching i'm watching kathleen

4298
02:58:25,910 --> 02:58:23,760
do all those things okay

4299
02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:25,920
uh camera two and three okay we're gonna

4300
02:58:29,429 --> 02:58:27,760
fade in here let's go you got the spot

4301
02:58:31,269 --> 02:58:29,439
ready okay we're gonna roll that it's

4302
02:58:32,710 --> 02:58:31,279
15 seconds long let's roll that let's

4303
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:32,720
bring that down and and

4304
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:36,800
that's it and she's doing that for hours

4305
02:58:40,309 --> 02:58:38,000
right you know there's nothing worse

4306
02:58:43,429 --> 02:58:40,319
than hearing kathleen go

4307
02:58:46,309 --> 02:58:43,439
okay you're on and then

4308
02:58:47,110 --> 02:58:46,319
and then i i i don't quite hear it and

4309
02:58:48,710 --> 02:58:47,120
then she's like

4310
02:58:49,830 --> 02:58:48,720
you're live and i'm just staring in the

4311
02:58:51,510 --> 02:58:49,840
camera this happened when i was

4312
02:58:53,110 --> 02:58:51,520
interviewing you by the way

4313
02:58:54,710 --> 02:58:53,120
you know when we right right when we

4314
02:58:57,349 --> 02:58:54,720
were i was asking you what happened in

4315
02:58:59,269 --> 02:58:57,359
the churchill room before we walked into

4316
02:59:01,750 --> 02:58:59,279
sir winston's yes we did a little

4317
02:59:02,790 --> 02:59:01,760
interview and i was waiting for susan to

4318
02:59:05,990 --> 02:59:02,800
throw to me

4319
02:59:08,389 --> 02:59:06,000
and both uh alex and

4320
02:59:09,830 --> 02:59:08,399
kathleen said q you're on at the same

4321
02:59:11,110 --> 02:59:09,840
time and they kind of their voices went

4322
02:59:12,150 --> 02:59:11,120
over each other i didn't understand what

4323
02:59:13,429 --> 02:59:12,160
was being said

4324
02:59:15,830 --> 02:59:13,439
so i'm just sitting there staring at the

4325
02:59:19,269 --> 02:59:15,840
lens and kathleen's going you're live

4326
02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:19,279
you're alive like oh oh okay

4327
02:59:23,429 --> 02:59:21,760
all right i'm gonna make a confession so

4328
02:59:26,950 --> 02:59:23,439
i was goofing around

4329
02:59:29,269 --> 02:59:26,960
in in the ballroom and i wandered into

4330
02:59:30,950 --> 02:59:29,279
your shot you were live on the air

4331
02:59:33,910 --> 02:59:30,960
right i don't even know if you know this

4332
02:59:35,429 --> 02:59:33,920
happened so i wandered into your shot

4333
02:59:37,750 --> 02:59:35,439
and then i wandered out of it there's

4334
02:59:39,910 --> 02:59:37,760
susan motioning to me

4335
02:59:42,070 --> 02:59:39,920
you know church could quit screwing

4336
02:59:44,630 --> 02:59:42,080
around and she's pulling me

4337
02:59:45,830 --> 02:59:44,640
and uh she goes uh kathleen just let me

4338
02:59:49,190 --> 02:59:45,840
know you were in the shot

4339
02:59:51,269 --> 02:59:49,200
without your face mask on oh i'm like oh

4340
02:59:54,309 --> 02:59:51,279
man i gotta stand in the corner

4341
02:59:55,110 --> 02:59:54,319
oh no uh and i walked into the control

4342
02:59:56,790 --> 02:59:55,120
room

4343
02:59:58,790 --> 02:59:56,800
and i walked up to kathleen she didn't

4344
02:59:59,590 --> 02:59:58,800
even remember right this is a minute

4345
03:00:02,550 --> 02:59:59,600
later

4346
03:00:03,269 --> 03:00:02,560
i know yeah i said kathleen i'm so sorry

4347
03:00:06,550 --> 03:00:03,279
about that

4348
03:00:08,630 --> 03:00:06,560
it was she goes jimmy that is the least

4349
03:00:09,590 --> 03:00:08,640
of the issues i'm dealing with right now

4350
03:00:12,469 --> 03:00:09,600
you're good

4351
03:00:13,190 --> 03:00:12,479
and she turned her back right back into

4352
03:00:16,550 --> 03:00:13,200
the show

4353
03:00:17,590 --> 03:00:16,560
and she was doing her thing and and i'm

4354
03:00:19,910 --> 03:00:17,600
cleansed i

4355
03:00:21,670 --> 03:00:19,920
it really is it's water off her back you

4356
03:00:25,269 --> 03:00:21,680
know i mean

4357
03:00:28,070 --> 03:00:25,279
the other day um i i was my watch broke

4358
03:00:29,110 --> 03:00:28,080
it broke on on the queen mary and it

4359
03:00:30,710 --> 03:00:29,120
stopped telling time

4360
03:00:32,389 --> 03:00:30,720
and i don't keep my phone with me

4361
03:00:33,750 --> 03:00:32,399
because i've got a transmitter on

4362
03:00:35,510 --> 03:00:33,760
the phone makes a chatter sound

4363
03:00:36,150 --> 03:00:35,520
sometimes if you get a text and stuff so

4364
03:00:37,830 --> 03:00:36,160
i just

4365
03:00:40,070 --> 03:00:37,840
didn't have the phone with me and so i

4366
03:00:40,790 --> 03:00:40,080
don't know the time and i was in a part

4367
03:00:43,190 --> 03:00:40,800
of the ship

4368
03:00:44,230 --> 03:00:43,200
because i was trying to get something um

4369
03:00:46,630 --> 03:00:44,240
produced

4370
03:00:47,750 --> 03:00:46,640
and i needed to be back on and i lost

4371
03:00:50,870 --> 03:00:47,760
track of time

4372
03:00:52,469 --> 03:00:50,880
and so you know she's she's like calling

4373
03:00:54,309 --> 03:00:52,479
blokky bloopkey where's blokey he's got

4374
03:00:56,150 --> 03:00:54,319
to be on you know and i get all these

4375
03:00:58,150 --> 03:00:56,160
frantic calls and everything and so i

4376
03:01:00,070 --> 03:00:58,160
i rush down and i finally get in my

4377
03:01:02,389 --> 03:01:00,080
chair and i'm like just sweat dripping

4378
03:01:04,230 --> 03:01:02,399
down and i'm panting and everything and

4379
03:01:06,469 --> 03:01:04,240
i do my interview and i go and talk to

4380
03:01:08,389 --> 03:01:06,479
her afterwards and i said are you okay

4381
03:01:10,630 --> 03:01:08,399
you pissed off at me and she's like

4382
03:01:11,910 --> 03:01:10,640
i i don't know everything's good i don't

4383
03:01:13,830 --> 03:01:11,920
even remember what happened yeah that's

4384
03:01:17,030 --> 03:01:13,840
what she did to me too

4385
03:01:18,070 --> 03:01:17,040
jay thank you so much really quick i am

4386
03:01:20,070 --> 03:01:18,080
literally

4387
03:01:22,309 --> 03:01:20,080
uh 10 seconds from getting cut off of

4388
03:01:24,790 --> 03:01:22,319
the network what's your next project can

4389
03:01:27,590 --> 03:01:24,800
you answer that in five seconds

4390
03:01:28,230 --> 03:01:27,600
um we are asking people where we should

4391
03:01:30,230 --> 03:01:28,240
go next

4392
03:01:31,670 --> 03:01:30,240
we are open i think most for the most

4393
03:01:33,110 --> 03:01:31,680
part we're going to take a break and get

4394
03:01:34,950 --> 03:01:33,120
some rest for the end of the year and

4395
03:01:36,150 --> 03:01:34,960
get ready for the beginning of next year

4396
03:01:37,030 --> 03:01:36,160
and we want to know where people would

4397
03:01:39,429 --> 03:01:37,040
like us to go

4398
03:01:41,910 --> 03:01:39,439
yeah very simple and for everybody out

4399
03:01:43,429 --> 03:01:41,920
there you can go to thedarkzone.tv

4400
03:01:45,110 --> 03:01:43,439
and if you want to check out all of the

4401
03:01:47,830 --> 03:01:45,120
footage and everything you can

4402
03:01:49,670 --> 03:01:47,840
go and purchase a day get a day but go

4403
03:01:51,510 --> 03:01:49,680
and check out everything that we

4404
03:01:53,110 --> 03:01:51,520
uh talked about tonight on the show jay

4405
03:01:55,110 --> 03:01:53,120
thank you so much i gotta roll credits

4406
03:01:58,950 --> 03:01:55,120
right now

4407
03:02:03,349 --> 03:01:58,960
bloom key very simple the dark zone

4408
03:02:05,910 --> 03:02:03,359
net one on twitter thedarkzone.tv

4409
03:02:06,469 --> 03:02:05,920
the links are at jimmychurchradio.com

4410
03:02:09,030 --> 03:02:06,479
jay

4411
03:02:09,830 --> 03:02:09,040
great job kathleen and the crew thank

4412
03:02:11,570 --> 03:02:09,840
you so much

4413
03:02:13,190 --> 03:02:11,580
amazing weekend

4414
03:02:16,150 --> 03:02:13,200
[Music]

4415
03:02:17,030 --> 03:02:16,160
huh jay's gone oh here i thought you

4416
03:02:18,550 --> 03:02:17,040
were just talking

4417
03:02:21,030 --> 03:02:18,560
all right thank you i loved it it was

4418
03:02:23,990 --> 03:02:21,040
fun thank you so much jay

4419
03:02:25,190 --> 03:02:24,000
now go get some much needed rest all

4420
03:02:26,710 --> 03:02:25,200
right buddy

4421
03:02:28,630 --> 03:02:26,720
fade to black is produced by rita

4422
03:02:30,150 --> 03:02:28,640
kamarian shows produced by hill j palm

4423
03:02:32,389 --> 03:02:30,160
rene dennis and kevin

4424
03:02:33,750 --> 03:02:32,399
announcers are steve harder gene vettel

4425
03:02:35,750 --> 03:02:33,760
and mark d kovar

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webmaster is drew the geek music doug

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aldrich intro spaceboy spaceboymusic.com

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r a the planet this broadcast zone a

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the game changer network inc

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it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

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copied or used anywhere in the known

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without written permission from fade to

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black of the game changer network i'm

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your host jimmy church

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tomorrow night our live election night

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special event i don't know if you know

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this tomorrow is november 3rd

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until then i want everybody to be safe